[linux-audio-user] Cactus Data Shield copy controlled cd's

[Larry Troxler]

> > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 17:06, Jan Depner wrote:
> > > 	Just had to put my 2 cents in here.  So, I go and buy the CD - it
> > > won't rip or play on my computer - I slap it in my decent CD player
> > > (with analog outs to my DSP2000) - I record it at 16/44.1 - I encode it
> > > in ogg - I post that on the web somewhere.  Now, question for the
> > > student, how much worse is my ogg copy than a ripped and encoded ogg
> > > copy?  If you're willing to settle for mp3 then this is just as
> > > acceptable and it can't be stopped.  From what I gather from most of my
> > > reading up on sound cards, most of them go from digital to analog and
> > > then back when you rip anyway.  Is the connection from your cd player
> > > to your sound card digital?  It is on my system but I don't think it is
> > > on most of the cheaper ones.

Hi, I'm sorry that I don't have Jan's original message still handy to reply 
to, but reading this leaves me very confused about how the ripping process 
works.

For example, from the Cdparanio doc:

"Cdparanoia is a Compact Disc Digital Audio (CDDA) extraction tool, commonly 
known on the net as a 'ripper'. The application is built on top of the 
Paranoia library, which is doing the real work (the Paranoia source is 
included in the cdparanoia source distribution). Like the original cdda2wav, 
cdparanoia package reads audio from the CDROM directly as data, with no 
analog step between, and writes the data to a file or pipe in WAV, AIFC or 
raw 16 bit linear PCM."

So clearly this is strictly digital process. What you're describing sounds 
more like simply playing a CD in audio mode in your CD rom drive and 
recording via the analog connection to the sound card.

Either I'm in the twilight zone (cursing myself that I don't get the sci-fi 
channel for the tz marathon this weekend) or there's two different meanings 
to the phrase "rip a cd".

What's the story here?

Larry Troxler