[linux-audio-user] Cactus Data Shield copy controlled cd's

Jan Depner eviltwin69 at cableone.net
Fri Jul 4 06:53:00 EDT 2003


Larry,

	Sorry, I should have used the term record instead of rip.  The rest is
still relevant though.  If I can hear it, I can steal it.  Conversely,
if I can't hear it, I'll return it to the store.  DRM for audio (and
probably video) is a lost cause.

Jan


On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 21:03, Larry Troxler wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 17:06, Jan Depner wrote:
> > > > 	Just had to put my 2 cents in here.  So, I go and buy the CD - it
> > > > won't rip or play on my computer - I slap it in my decent CD player
> > > > (with analog outs to my DSP2000) - I record it at 16/44.1 - I encode it
> > > > in ogg - I post that on the web somewhere.  Now, question for the
> > > > student, how much worse is my ogg copy than a ripped and encoded ogg
> > > > copy?  If you're willing to settle for mp3 then this is just as
> > > > acceptable and it can't be stopped.  From what I gather from most of my
> > > > reading up on sound cards, most of them go from digital to analog and
> > > > then back when you rip anyway.  Is the connection from your cd player
> > > > to your sound card digital?  It is on my system but I don't think it is
> > > > on most of the cheaper ones.
> 
> Hi, I'm sorry that I don't have Jan's original message still handy to reply 
> to, but reading this leaves me very confused about how the ripping process 
> works.
> 
> For example, from the Cdparanio doc:
> 
> "Cdparanoia is a Compact Disc Digital Audio (CDDA) extraction tool, commonly 
> known on the net as a 'ripper'. The application is built on top of the 
> Paranoia library, which is doing the real work (the Paranoia source is 
> included in the cdparanoia source distribution). Like the original cdda2wav, 
> cdparanoia package reads audio from the CDROM directly as data, with no 
> analog step between, and writes the data to a file or pipe in WAV, AIFC or 
> raw 16 bit linear PCM."
> 
> So clearly this is strictly digital process. What you're describing sounds 
> more like simply playing a CD in audio mode in your CD rom drive and 
> recording via the analog connection to the sound card.
> 
> Either I'm in the twilight zone (cursing myself that I don't get the sci-fi 
> channel for the tz marathon this weekend) or there's two different meanings 
> to the phrase "rip a cd".
> 
> What's the story here?
> 
> Larry Troxler
> 
> 
> 





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