[linux-audio-user] VST_SERVER and Edirol Hypercanvas?

[Russell Hanaghan]

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 15:49, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 14:00, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 11:26, Dave Phillips wrote:
> > > Hi Russell:
> > > 
> > >   What version of WINE is installed ? Here are some details about my system:
> > > 
> > >     WINE 20031118
> > >     libfst 1.6
> > >     jack_fst 1.2
> > >     JACK 0.98
> > >     ALSA 1.0.4
> > 
> > Hmmm...Wine 20040614 I believe
> > libfst came from thac's but I think is 1.5
> > jack_fst 1.2
> > Jack .98.8
> > Alsa 1.0.5a
> > > 
> > >   Check for earlier versions of things, i.e., in both the /usr and 
> > > /usr/local hierarchies. I know people like package managers, I like them 
> > > too, but this stuff is likely to be a "best fit" if you compile and 
> > > install it yourself. And as you probably know, the version of WINE can 
> > > make a difference.
> > 
> > Yeah the older version of wine I had was a little steadier out of the
> > box. Only ran progman, winecfg, etc but it did work. Just uninstalled
> > and reinstalled Wine from Thac's and now the bugger don't work at all!
> > 
> > Will keep trying. Might need to comile my own Fst but get Wine working
> > first obviously.
> 
> Ok...onward...
> 
> I installed an older version of wine from the Mandrake contribs...one I
> knew worked. And it does...brings up all the Windows apps from
> Wine-utils package no problem. So I got wine!
> 
> THought I'd build Jack_fst and fst from scratch...
> 
> So I unpack the hairball...er tarball for fst 1.6. I do configure and
> that goes amazingly well. I do "make" and that goes well!  I su and then
> do "make install". That dies with something like...
> 
> no such file or directory. Theres other stuff but I think what it's
> doing is trying to install to /usr/local/lib/pkg-config with the config
> file. MDK does not use this directory. It uses /usr/lib/pkg-config
> instead.
> 
> I think there's just an environment variable to be set here but I hunted
> thru the makefiles, aclocal, etc where usually I find some option I can
> change specific paths in. No luck. Am I on the right track here?
> 
> Thanks

So I have spent about 6 hours on this collectively and to no real
result. I did manage to compile fst 1.6 and Jack_fst 1.2. The
./mkdirectories file or whatever it was is missing. I copied it from my
/user/share/Automake 1.4 directory and it installed just fine...

So I have compiled these against Wine 20040615, Wine 20040213. Don't get
anything more than "Cannot load plugin HyperCanvas".  

I give...for now!  THis blasted Wine and vst thing does this to me each
time! ;( 

A really detailed step by step would be a good thing on this. The quick
toot is good Dave...don't get me wrong...but from the "ignoramous"
perspective, there seems to be a LOT of other stuff missing. If it works
on one box, in theory at least, it should work on another...

I'm bummed at another level...A decent midi GM soft synth is about the
only real thing keeping me from going Linux only with my live audio
stuff. 

Any thoughts on a new attack would still be appreciated. I gotta gig I
gotta get ready for...at least it puts back the perspective of why I do
this! :)

R~
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> > 
> > R~
> > 
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > 
> > > dp
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> > > 
> > > >So I got Jack_fst built last night...after going thru the usual
> > > >./configure nightmares. These mainly came down to not having devel
> > > >packages installed on MDK. (takes that to get the "pkg-config" files in
> > > >/usr/lib/pkg-config).
> > > >
> > > >I already had Thac's "libfst" installed so I built Jack_fst. I used the
> > > >"fixheaders" script on the afectfx.h or whatever it is that was
> > > >installed from the fst rpm. It5 seemed to work as it allowed "make" to
> > > >do just that; Make! :)
> > > >
> > > >So...it's showtime.....I run Jack up in the usual manner. I hold my
> > > >breath anf in a terminal i run "jack_fst Hyper Canvas. I see it
> > > >hesitating and comes back with " "no such file or directory". Ok...at
> > > >least it didn't esplode! :) So I specify the full path. (I copied all my
> > > >.dll vst's into /usr/lib/wine) I run 'jack_fst Hyper Canvas'...{still
> > > >holding breath} It now returns "cant load Hyper". Hmmm...Well at least
> > > >it sees it but does not like the space in the file name. 
> > > >
> > > >So I truncate the file name by renaming it "HyperCanvas". I run it again
> > > >in same manner...Pauses {face is now blue}...Pops up several windows
> > > >registry errors in a box labelled "Edirol Hyper Canvas" 
> > > >
> > > >"Cannot open registry."
> > > >{1E711428-673C-ETC,ETC,ETC}
> > > >	OK
> > > >
> > > >Then terminal responds with;
> > > >
> > > >"fst signal handler 11, thread=0x4095c260"
> > > >"fst signal handler 11, (TEB=0x40a22000)"
> > > >
> > > >And then dies....and I finally take a breath! :)
> > > >
> > > >I'm so close I can SMELL it!  Is this just a permissions issue? fst is
> > > >clearly talking to Hyper canvas. I tried some othe vst's. Also sometimes
> > > >get something like "Could not talk to GUI thread" or such in terminal?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 19:38, Dave Phillips wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>Hi Russell:
> > > >>
> > > >>  Well, I have only a Casio CZ101 for a MIDI keyboard, it doesn't have a 
> > > >>mod wheel but its pitch bend seems to work fine with HC. Program change 
> > > >>works too. I like HC's ability to shut down certain channels, that's 
> > > >>very handy for me. The instrument edit panel opens fine and seems to 
> > > >>behave correctly.
> > > >>
> > > >>  I should also note that its redraws were quite sluggish on my 800 MHz 
> > > >>machine, and if its graphics were disturbed during play they weren't 
> > > >>redrawn until play ended. The sound was uninterrupted, but I was not 
> > > >>encouraged to do a lot of realtime parameter changes. I'm sure a faster 
> > > >>machine would yield better results.
> > > >>
> > > >>  Now, for big fun you should try running Softwerk with the Crystal 
> > > >>VSTi... hoots galore !
> > > >>
> > > >>Best regards,
> > > >>
> > > >>dp
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>    
> > > >>
> > > >>>KOOL!!   
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I gave up on this thread...thought no one knew or cared!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Does all of the midi functionality work too? And also tone adjust on
> > > >>>individual instruments?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Guess I'd better try harder at getting Jack_fst to work. Never have had
> > > >>>any luck with it or VSTserver...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Thanks for letting me know.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Russell
> > > >>>
> > > >>>On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 17:51, Dave Phillips wrote:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>
> > > >>>      
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Hi Russell:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It works for me. I'm using HyperCanvas 1.02, it seems to be working 
> > > >>>>perfectly, though I haven't exactly stress-tested it.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>   jack_fst HyperCanvas.dll
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Best regards,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>dp
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>   
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>        
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>There is a killer Soft synth under <place favorite pseudonym for
> > > >>>>>proprietary monopolistic OS here>  win-dohs! It comes in VST and DXi
> > > >>>>>format. It is Edirols Hyper canvas that runs to GM2 spec and has good
> > > >>>>>control and functionality in the likes of Steinberg, Cakewalk, etc.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>I'm wondering if it could be run under FST or VST_server and used in
> > > >>>>><place favorite Open Source OS distro here> Linux in conjunction with
> > > >>>>>Muse or Rosegarden or other sequencer apps?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Anyone by remote chance messed with this?  I will be doing some
> > > >>>>>experimenting but I have not even got VST server to work properly yet.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>Thanks
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