[linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

[tim hall]

Last Sunday 12 December 2004 22:44, Marek Peteraj was like:
> On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 21:07, tim hall wrote:
> > Last Sunday 12 December 2004 18:57, Mark Knecht was like:
> > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:55:05 -0600, Jan Depner
> > > <eviltwin69 at cableone.net>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 09:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:03:40 +0100, Esben Stien
> > > > > <executiv at online.no>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org> writes:
> > > > > > > So basically they want to protect their investment in getting
> > > > > > > knowledge of how to implement a powerful firewire interface
> > > > > > > from the eyes of other hardware manufacturers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A society where you put money higher than cooperating with other
> > > > > > people is not a good society, in my opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Socialism - it ain't pretty...
> > > >
> > > > Really.  I was going to point out that that is exactly what Karl Marx
> > > > (or was that Groucho) said.  You can see how well that worked out.
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > > Groucho was a genius. Not so sure about Karl.
> > >
> > > Of course, I should have added that he has a right to his opinion, but
> > > so do I. I believe in patents, intellectual property, and the right of
> > > a corporation to deceptively market products to me in an attempt to
> > > get my money. I do not believe companies owe me anything, whether I've
> > > given them money or not, and Santa Claus.
> >
> > LOL!
> > If they've successfully conned you thus far, why stop at Santa Claws?
> >
> > Putting cooperation above money is a noble ideal, I actually fail to
> > understand why anyone would disagree with it. That's not to say we should
> > be naive about market forces, but there's no need to wheel out tired old
> > truisms in their defence. I do uphold your right to be horribly misled,
> > however. ;-)
>
> And 5 years ago you'd tell me that linux audio, alsa(a well designed
> driver infrastructure that is incorporated in the linux kernel), jack(a
> server that is able interconnect your favorite audio applications,
> letting audio flow from one app to the other at low latencies), ardour(a
> non-linear non-destructive audio editor that offers unlimited number of
> audio tracks, is able to handle plugins with latency compensation and
> offers automation including plugin parameter autiomation),
> linuxsampler(a sampler that is able to handle 100+ voices of >1Gb
> samples, although still in very alpha development phase), ... is truism.
> And 15 years ago you would tell me that something like linux is truism.
>
> C'mon guys, give me a break ;)

A truism is something too obviously true, cliched or which repeats itself in 
the making. Five years ago I'd have stared at you open mouthed if you'd told 
me any of those things were possible. You misunderstood my point completely.

nevermind

tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk