[linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

[Marek Peteraj]

On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 02:50, tim hall wrote:
> Last Sunday 12 December 2004 22:44, Marek Peteraj was like:
> > On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 21:07, tim hall wrote:
> > > Last Sunday 12 December 2004 18:57, Mark Knecht was like:
> > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:55:05 -0600, Jan Depner
> > > > <eviltwin69 at cableone.net>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 09:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:03:40 +0100, Esben Stien
> > > > > > <executiv at online.no>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org> writes:
> > > > > > > > So basically they want to protect their investment in getting
> > > > > > > > knowledge of how to implement a powerful firewire interface
> > > > > > > > from the eyes of other hardware manufacturers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A society where you put money higher than cooperating with other
> > > > > > > people is not a good society, in my opinion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Socialism - it ain't pretty...
> > > > >
> > > > > Really.  I was going to point out that that is exactly what Karl Marx
> > > > > (or was that Groucho) said.  You can see how well that worked out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan
> > > >
> > > > Groucho was a genius. Not so sure about Karl.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, I should have added that he has a right to his opinion, but
> > > > so do I. I believe in patents, intellectual property, and the right of
> > > > a corporation to deceptively market products to me in an attempt to
> > > > get my money. I do not believe companies owe me anything, whether I've
> > > > given them money or not, and Santa Claus.
> > >
> > > LOL!
> > > If they've successfully conned you thus far, why stop at Santa Claws?
> > >
> > > Putting cooperation above money is a noble ideal, I actually fail to
> > > understand why anyone would disagree with it. That's not to say we should
> > > be naive about market forces, but there's no need to wheel out tired old
> > > truisms in their defence. I do uphold your right to be horribly misled,
> > > however. ;-)
> >
> > And 5 years ago you'd tell me that linux audio, alsa(a well designed
> > driver infrastructure that is incorporated in the linux kernel), jack(a
> > server that is able interconnect your favorite audio applications,
> > letting audio flow from one app to the other at low latencies), ardour(a
> > non-linear non-destructive audio editor that offers unlimited number of
> > audio tracks, is able to handle plugins with latency compensation and
> > offers automation including plugin parameter autiomation),
> > linuxsampler(a sampler that is able to handle 100+ voices of >1Gb
> > samples, although still in very alpha development phase), ... is truism.
> > And 15 years ago you would tell me that something like linux is truism.
> >
> > C'mon guys, give me a break ;)
> 
> A truism is something too obviously true, cliched or which repeats itself in 
> the making. Five years ago I'd have stared at you open mouthed if you'd told 
> me any of those things were possible. You misunderstood my point completely.
> 

I had the feeling that everyone was joking, perhaps i was wrong?
Let me try another one ;)
People at RME will be scared if they see how much people talk about them
not releasing specs. They will finally realise that there is a huge
linux audio market.(in the meantime, we should at least learn how to
change the subject lines ;).

Marek