[linux-audio-user] Ableton live user

John Check j4strngs at bitless.net
Tue Apr 26 10:12:10 EDT 2005


On Tuesday 26 April 2005 08:47 am, Dave Phillips wrote:
> Greetings:
>
>   Levi's response is what is known on Slashdot as a troll. It's
> uninformed and uninterested in being helpful. There's plenty of evidence

Troll presumes malice. I don't know that it was malicious, but it was 
ignorant. It may have been based on personal experience and he just didn't 
account for the fact that he's naive.

> now that Linux audio software is performance capable, often exceeding
> the performance stability of music software on either the Mac and Windows.
>
>   I could back up my statements with links to the appropriate messages
> and forums, except that it is in the nature of a troll to be unconcerned
> with either the veracity of the troll itself and to be uninterested in
> actually learning anything contrary to the troll. I will suggest that
> Mr. Machado look at the Music Made With Linux section of the Linux
> soundapps pages and at Jan Weil's Linux audio blog, which includes a
> nice list of music made with Linux.
>
>   Iain Duncan has been using the Linux version of Csound for
> performances lasting hours at a time, Ron Parker has been employing
> Ardour as the DAW of choice in his professional studio (Mirror Image
> Studios) for the past six months, and many other people on and off this
> list are using Linux daily for the music creation and production needs.
>
>   I suggest that it's Mr. Burton who should unsubscribe, not Mr.
> Machado. I also suggest that calling someone an asshole in a response is
> just poor form, regardless how provocative the original statement. Mr.
> Revell does some outstanding work in Linux audio development, but I
> should think a little more civil response was in order. Sorry, Lee, I
> admire your work, and I understand the warmth of your reply, but was
> "asshole" really necessary ?
>
>   We're going to get more and more people coming to us with questions
> like Felipe's, questions which are quite legitimate and want only a
> decent straightforward answer so the poster can proceed to make an
> informed decision. We won't convince anyone either by posting uninformed
> remarks a la Mr. Burton or by responding with name-calling (I agree with
> the pundit who stated that once we start calling each other names we've
> admitted we're done with any constructive dialog).
>

Perhaps Lee  was shagged out after a long performance ;)

>   I've lost count of the number of projects that "probably never will"
> be achieved by Linux developers, including such software as Ardour,
> Mozilla, and even Linux itself. Having just returned from the Linux
> audio conference I can confidently state that much Linux audio software
> is perfectly usable live, and it is most certainly capable of meeting
> some very demanding needs from some very demanding musicians (witness
> the concert series, both the composed shows and the improv sets). If
> that software works for you, fine, and if not, you can always return to
> your previous environment. You should really be most concerned about
> getting your work done. For many of us here, Linux audio software is
> precisely how we get our own work done.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dave Phillips
>


> Levi D. Burton wrote:
> > Sorry, but if your coming to linux thinking that you will find
> > software of comparable performance to something such as Ableton Live,
> > you are very mistaken.  Nothing on linux even comes close to Ableton
> > Live and probably never will.
> >
> > Why not just use Ableton Live?  Save yourself a whole lot of trouble.
> >
> > Oh, and using linux audio software live?  I wouldn't.
> >
> > Felipe Machado wrote:
> >> i use ableton live in my show. but now i want use linux. waht
> >> software i have to install to use, looks like ableton live ? or
> >> other good sample.
> >> i edit some samples and play with a group.
> >>
> >> thaks



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