[linux-audio-user] NOTEEDIT to use Lilypond as an external printer?

I. I. Ooisen ii001001 at yahoo.ca
Wed Dec 21 05:06:41 EST 2005


On Wednesday 21 December 2005 11:34, Georg Rudolph wrote:
> I. I. Ooisen wrote:
> >i wonder, since noteedit depends on lilypond for printing, why don't
> > the developers of noteedit just use lilypond as an external
> > editor/printer so that any newbye would find it easy to print the
> > score?
> >
> >of course, if it doesn't find lilypond, it can just say: "lilypond
> > does not seem to be installed on this machine (or whatever)", and
> > the newbye will simply try to install it (as i don't think it's
> > sane to make lilypond a dependency of noteedit).
> >
> >until noteedit gets internal printing support, i am sure what i
> > suggest is absolutely useful -- or please explain why not.
> >
> >(i very much wonder why the noteedit devs haven't already considered
> > it. i guess it is trivial to implement.)
>
> Please don't be teaching, please. Details can be tricky in a grown up
> project like this!
>
> As a surprise, this feature exactly is in the works, out in very few
> weeks. And when you check in
> http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/noteedit/trunk/ for example the file
> ChangeLog, you see, there are people having fun with NoteEdit and
> improving it in every direction. And we have there mailing lists, but
> to get mentioned on lau is an honor :)
>
> Lilypond is a beautiful post processor. Abc and Musixtex represent
> other tastes and senses for design, so we try to support all of them,
> or none.
>
> After reading your other thread above, a few thoughts: The
> installation and proper setup of sound components is still a
> challenge. If you're a newbe, Debian, Mandriva, Suse, are relatively
> save to go. You need a lot: alsa with midi, tse3, a soft synth, a
> print processor, maybe realtime-lsm to get glitch free playback,
> artsd be friendly, and so on. I'm used to run NoteEdit with timidity
> on jack, (together with ardour when also recording with the
> multiface) with realtime-lsm configured. The setup is still tricky,
> needs more time to become standardized. Thanks all who are working on
> this! What can be done already now is impressive.
>
> For me somehow Rosegarden never worked out of my Suse box, so this is
> still on my list to try out and to compare against NoteEdit! Maybe I
> didn't try hard enough, because Jörg and others wrote a program that
> I just like and use now a lot. This seemed to have happend also the
> other way around.
>
> If you want to help out, there are ways in every level, maybe just to
> communicate, maybe bug reports. About the maturity of NoteEdit I'm
> quite conservative, as a personal stance, sometimes shy to advertise
> it to the wrong people. People will compare NoteEdit with commercial
> notation software, and the overall experience on an arbitrary linux
> box can still be irritating. The gap will narrow, as I see for the
> new year :)
>
> Continue to enjoy NotEdit,

thank you very much for the wish and for the good news. are you a 
contributor of noteedit?

> Regards,
> Georg
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