[linux-audio-user] Re: Best soundcard for DJing with Linux (Poll)

J_Zar j_zar at openjay.org
Tue Nov 22 23:04:20 EST 2005

Hi Loki... Sorry if I'm late!
I published your point of view as you suggested and I answered to you here:



Alle 02:22, giovedì 10 novembre 2005, Loki Davison ha scritto:
> On 11/10/05, J_Zar <j_zar at openjay.org> wrote:
> > Alle 11:09, mercoledì 09 novembre 2005, Esben Stien ha scritto:
> > > OT: It's really sad that a community portal has ads.
> >
> > Really OT: Quite true.. But it's really sad to manage a community portal
> > without any cash input to pay the efforts! Efforts are: time, code,
> > service I suppose that service / contents of OpenJay.org is not good
> > enough to gain
> This is a bit of rant....
> I really wonder what people are looking for in a sound card for one.
> Any "openjay" should really be given this advice to  start with.
> Buy a mixer.
> Any application that suggests it is a good idea to use the built in
> (i.e computer) mixer/eq/effects etc is well, in my opinion deluded at
> best. It's like suggesting to use the computer keyboard for playing a
> piano synth. Then what you look for on a card are 2 stereo outs to go
> to your mixer. I REALLY suggest some of the developers of the limited
> number of dj apps for linux really need to learn how to dj first, on
> standard equipment. By this i mean a mixer and sl1200's (or copy of if
> can't borrow/limited for cash) or if that's not possible, a worse
> option, a mixer and standard club cdj's.
> Dj apps really should be modeled on turntables or cdj's. Something
> proved to be useful. Anything you can't do on a turntable is pretty
> much pointless for djing. A pitch range of > 8% is not in any way a
> good idea. If i get outside of +-5% it would be a freak occurrence.
> I've actually used djplay http://djplay.sourceforge.net/ in a small
> gig. I had my mixer, 2 sl1200's but a very limited collection of vinyl
> as i was travelling internationally. I used djplay as a substitute for
> a cdj. It wasn't too bad for that, and much more suitable than the
> other apps i've used, but in no way to the standard of  a cheap
> turntable/cdj.
> All linux dj apps seem to have problem with cueing well. By this i
> mean finding the first cue point, were to release from in normal vinyl
> speak. On a cdj or vinyl these are scrub over the beat you want and
> release the vinyl  or press cue on a cdj, in time with the beat on the
> other deck. Try doing this on any linux dj app.
> Accuracy for pitch is also very limited. For correcting in the mix
> (after i had the tunes beatmatched and live, i.e both together) i
> would have to correct the vinyl copy not the djplay copy, as small
> pitch changes, i.e 0.1% smoothly is VERY hard with current linux dj
> apps.
> In regard to cdj/turntable focus, effects are useless. If people want
> to use effects, they can either route the output of the dj prog
> through om or jack-rack, or effects loop on there mixer through om or
> jack-rack. However neither of these are a good idea, as effects are
> really not a good idea in djing, unless you are really to the level
> where you can mix perfectly while playing with the effects. After 5 or
> 6 years of djing (vinyl) for minimum one hour per day, i am not to
> this stage.  Layering accapellas, etc is much more fun.
> I'm happy to help with any djing questions, however i'm really
> wondering why none of this style of info is at openjay.org. If you
> want to put my suggestions there, feel free.
> end rant!
> Loki

Gianluca Romanin
  (aka J_Zar)

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