[LAU] LAU collaboration coordination?

Ken Restivo ken at restivo.org
Thu Nov 15 19:50:10 EST 2007


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On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 07:04:59PM -0500, plutek wrote:
> 
> >> >http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcHost
> >> >
> >> >Looks like the "killer web app" has already been written, and it is GPL, and someone just needs to install it and then let's start jamming!
> >> 
> >> that "someone" might well be me -- just reviewed my server bandwidth/storage limits, and i *think* it should be fine. anyone care to throw out a quick estimate of what the server loads might look like? i'd prefer to stay away from lossy formats.
> >> 
> >
> >Awesome!
> >
> >Well it looks like there might be a convergence upon FLAC/44.1k/16bit for tracks/loops/samples. You could always limit it to ogg instead of FLAC if you get too close to your limits, or find someone else to take over hosting it if it gets to be an expense.
> >
> >I haven't been counting, but I'd guess that about a dozen people have expressed interest. I don't know to estimate how much material everyone would upload and how soon. I have a whole hard disk full of unfinished loops, riffs, beats, and samples, which I'm ready to start contributing as soon as the system is alive.
> >
> >I'm not sure how to estimate how much use a Linux-only, BY-SA cchost music collaboration site would get, but I reckon that only accurate way to find out is to push the thing live and see what happens.
> 
> i did some quick "back-of-an-envelope" figuring while riding around on the bus today, and came up with this worst-case scenario (well... BEST-case, really.... he-he..):
> 
> assume 44.1kHz/32-bit - that's around 11MB/track/min
> assume we want to produce a complete record (~60min) - that's about 2/3 GB per track
> assume we're going 24 tracks deep - that's about 16GB
> assume we need some headroom (text files, presets, screenshots, whatever) - call it 20GB instead
> assume we have 20 users, who ALL upload AND download EVERYTHING twice every week - that's somewhat less than 4TB/mo
> 
> SO........
> 20GB storage
> 4TB/mo. bandwidth
> 
> and it'll almost certainly end up being a LOT less than that.
> works for me.
> 
> i can probably set this up within a week or two.
> i would host it at whatever-name-we-choose.peterlutek.com
> 
> for "whatever-name-we-choose", i was thinking of "laum" (LAU-Music), until i ran into www.inside.net/plugin/laum.htm and laum.univ-lemans.fr
> 
> anyone else have any bright ideas for the name?

It's hard to beat "LAU".

> 
> also, do we in fact have concensus around the idea of using CcHost?
> 

I think a working site with active users is much more likely to happen-- and would be much more useful-- than "consensus". 

I'd suggest getting it running, putting it out there, and finding out who uses it and what their feedback is.

- -ken
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