[LAU] By-sa (WAS: Re: [OT] Another problem with creative commons licenses [UPDATE])

[drew Roberts]

On Sunday 24 February 2008 03:19:24 Rob wrote:
> On Saturday 23 February 2008 20:32, Ken Restivo wrote:
> > It's great that Creative Commons put together such a
> > well-thought-out palette of options to choose from; there's a
> > license to suit all kinds of goals, tastes, and preferences. It's
> > very flexible.
>
> Yet they still don't have the kind of license that I'm looking for:

I would like to see us solve that one too.

> one directly analogous to the GPL, but for music; one where, while
> anyone can use your work for any purpose, derivative works must not
> only be licensed under the same license, but have their source
> materials (unmixed master recordings, sequencer files, video files,
> whatever it takes to "build" the final derivative work) available
> under that license as well.

I am working with a group of people now who may be going that direction in our 
practise though. Ken is one of the group as well:

http://lau-cb.peterlutek.com/
The Linux Audio Users Chillout Band
On-line virtual band/composer song creation

We have been putting up tracks. Now putting up ardour projects. Some are 
putting up midi files, I have seen some chord files, but I just looked and 
they seem to be gone? and lyrics are posted as well.

Do those of us using BY-SA have a chance of making it the social norm even if 
it is not in the license?

This will bring up the need for Free / standard formats, Free toolchains, etc.
>
> I don't think I'll ever see one like that in mainstream use the way
> the CC licenses are now, but it sure would go a long way toward
> creating the same kind of spirit in the music community that the GPL
> did (over the course of about 20 years) in the software community.  At
> least nowadays most people have, or should soon have, the bandwidth
> necessary to make something like that practical.

Working in the RPM08 challenge project with these guys this month has been an 
education so far. Both in what is currently possible and in needed 
improvements.
>
> Rob

all the best,

drew