[LAU] Preamp for mic/ guitar

[schoappied]

Emiliano Grilli wrote:
> Thursday, 29 May 2008 alle 22:50:09, schoappied ha scritto:
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>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I've bought a m-audio audiophile 24/96 and a mic shure sm 58 beta 
>> (thanks for your advices ;) ).
>>     
>
> They're "industry standards" :)
>
>   
>> I also have a epiphone les paul elekt. guitar with a orange crush 30 r 
>> amplifier.
>>
>> Now I want to be able to record voice and guitar, so I need a preamp... 
>> (or a mixer, if that's better)
>>     
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> A mixer would do better only if it's a big and old one: I grabbed
> recently a soundtracs rx-8 for 400 eur and it is fantastic sounding and
> very flexible (even if a bit heavy). Brands to search for are all
> british (in my opinion): sountracs, allen & heath, souncraft,
> studiomaster, trident. At the top of the food chain there are studers,
> but I fear that will cost at least around 1500 eur.
>
> I have also a rack mountable soundcraft folio but its preamps, althoug
> better than the ones of ART or behringer, are not up to the ones on the
> 24 channel soundtracs console.
>
> A 24 channel console can be overkill for your puroposes, but can be the
> best thing to search for in the used market. Buy locally if you can, as
> you'd better try all channels and functions (and noises) before buiyng.
>
>   
>> My budget is around 100 euro, but don't be to strict on that, maybe I'll 
>> can get some things second hand...
>>
>> I was thinking about these things, but Giuseppe, was telling that the 
>> art tubes are not a really good choice:
>>
>> - http://www.thomann.de/nl/art_tube_mp_project_series.htm
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> I had one of those, and sell it immediatly. Not very good, in my opinion
> too
>
>   
>> What about the alternative in this area?
>>
>> - audio buddy: http://www.thomann.de/nl/m-audio_audio_buddy.htm
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> I don't know it
>
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>> - Studio Projects VTB1 : http://www.thomann.de/nl/studio_projects_vtb1.htm
>>     
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> I have two of these and they're fine for the price. I never use the
> "valve" feature, though.. maybe those are among the best in this price
> range.
>
>   
>> What are good preamps? Are there good preamps in the range of 100 - 250 
>> euro? (Maybe I'll can get some second hand).
>>     
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> I also have a dbx 285a (around 280 eur) which is a channel strip with
> some useful features like a compressor, an expander and deesser. Nice. I
> often use this one for single mic recordings.
>
> Then on the "little more expensive side", I have a Groove tubes "the
> brick" (around 400 eur) which is a true tube preamp, great as bass DI
> but doesn't have lots of gain. Then, and this is my best and most used
> one, there is the FMR really nice preamp (2 channels for ~ 500 eur). 
> If you can afford it is a really good sounding preamp, and one of the
> most recognized even by pro users (even if "entry level", by their
> standards)
>
>   
>
Thanks. And what do you think about the presonus firebox? I can get it 
for 175 euro..