[LAU] Preamp for mic/ guitar

[schoappied]

Emiliano Grilli wrote:
> Friday, 30 May 2008 alle 13:15:21, schoappied ha scritto:
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>> Emiliano Grilli wrote:
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>>> Thursday, 29 May 2008 alle 22:50:09, schoappied ha scritto:
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>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've bought a m-audio audiophile 24/96 and a mic shure sm 58 beta 
>>>> (thanks for your advices ;) ).
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>>> They're "industry standards" :)
>>>
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>>>> I also have a epiphone les paul elekt. guitar with a orange crush 30 r 
>>>> amplifier.
>>>>
>>>> Now I want to be able to record voice and guitar, so I need a preamp... 
>>>> (or a mixer, if that's better)
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>>> A mixer would do better only if it's a big and old one: I grabbed
>>> recently a soundtracs rx-8 for 400 eur and it is fantastic sounding and
>>> very flexible (even if a bit heavy). Brands to search for are all
>>> british (in my opinion): sountracs, allen & heath, souncraft,
>>> studiomaster, trident. At the top of the food chain there are studers,
>>> but I fear that will cost at least around 1500 eur.
>>>
>>> I have also a rack mountable soundcraft folio but its preamps, althoug
>>> better than the ones of ART or behringer, are not up to the ones on the
>>> 24 channel soundtracs console.
>>>
>>> A 24 channel console can be overkill for your puroposes, but can be the
>>> best thing to search for in the used market. Buy locally if you can, as
>>> you'd better try all channels and functions (and noises) before buiyng.
>>>
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>>>> My budget is around 100 euro, but don't be to strict on that, maybe I'll 
>>>> can get some things second hand...
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking about these things, but Giuseppe, was telling that the 
>>>> art tubes are not a really good choice:
>>>>
>>>> - http://www.thomann.de/nl/art_tube_mp_project_series.htm
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>>> I had one of those, and sell it immediatly. Not very good, in my opinion
>>> too
>>>
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>>>> What about the alternative in this area?
>>>>
>>>> - audio buddy: http://www.thomann.de/nl/m-audio_audio_buddy.htm
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>>> I don't know it
>>>
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>>>> - Studio Projects VTB1 : http://www.thomann.de/nl/studio_projects_vtb1.htm
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>>> I have two of these and they're fine for the price. I never use the
>>> "valve" feature, though.. maybe those are among the best in this price
>>> range.
>>>
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>>>> What are good preamps? Are there good preamps in the range of 100 - 250 
>>>> euro? (Maybe I'll can get some second hand).
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>>> I also have a dbx 285a (around 280 eur) which is a channel strip with
>>> some useful features like a compressor, an expander and deesser. Nice. I
>>> often use this one for single mic recordings.
>>>
>>> Then on the "little more expensive side", I have a Groove tubes "the
>>> brick" (around 400 eur) which is a true tube preamp, great as bass DI
>>> but doesn't have lots of gain. Then, and this is my best and most used
>>> one, there is the FMR really nice preamp (2 channels for ~ 500 eur). 
>>> If you can afford it is a really good sounding preamp, and one of the
>>> most recognized even by pro users (even if "entry level", by their
>>> standards)
>>>
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>> Thanks. And what do you think about the presonus firebox? I can get it 
>> for 175 euro..
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>
> I never used one. But if I understand correctly it's an all-in-one
> preamp/soundcard, and you already have the soundcard...
>
> I suggest you search on groups.google.com on the rec.audio.pro newsgroup
> to search information about a specific device. Also the tapeop
> messageboard or gearslutz.com are good places to see people's opinions:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.pro/topics
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.home-studio/topics
> http://messageboard.tapeop.com/
> http://www.gearslutz.com/board/
>
> (I love newsgroups but I HATE forums :)
>
> Cheers
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And what about the Studio Projects VTB1, is it also good for electr. guitar?

Dirk