[LAU] Musical Score Editors - some advice for beginners

david gnome at hawaii.rr.com
Fri Sep 25 03:13:36 EDT 2009


Robert Jonsson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2009/9/25 david <gnome at hawaii.rr.com <mailto:gnome at hawaii.rr.com>>
> 
>     Oh, I'm not complaining about QT in general. I'm complaining about QT4
>     and the "forced migration" it appears to be doing to everyone. To wit, a
>     lot of good enhancements and bug fixing in Rosegarden is on extended
>     hold until the devs finish slogging through porting it to QT4.
> 
> I think you are missing the boat here. If it had been Qt3 migrating to 
> Qt4 it would have been:
> - easier
> - not entirely necessary, since qt3 can piecefully coexist until the day 
> Qt3 is removed from repositories (won't happen soon)

I bet QT3 disappears first from live Linux CDs, where space is always at 
a premium ...

> But RG was built on KDE3 which in retrospect is a big problem. Now that 
> distros move to KDE4 the extra resource usage cannot be ignored.

Then KDE4 should have done more about backwards compatibility. Now I can 
blame KDE4 for even MORE reasons! ;-)

> The only long term solution I see is to do what they did, move to Qt4

Oh, I agree. But in the meantime, their program suffers and loses 
momentum. I'm also worried about the effort burning out one of the 
developers.

> In MusE we have had it easier in that it's already Qt3, a Qt4 port was 
> done already a long time ago that might never see the light of day... 
> due to other circumstances.

Hmm, why for?

> Still, that current MusE uses Qt3 isn't a big problem, we will move when 
> there is sufficient reason, would have been nice to use some of the easy 
> eye-candy in Qt4 though (like stylesheets).
> 
>     Now don't get me started about the waste of time/resources known as
>     KDE4! ;-)
> 
> As will the next Gnome be...

I consider the GNOME environment an insult to my email ID! ;-)

> it's evolution in progress...

No, it's imitation in progress. IMITATE Windows Vista or OS X. Eye 
candy. Tedious piles of cluttered eye candy, instead of quality apps.

It's much harder to design a user interface than it is to design and 
code an app.

I recently tried to upgrade my Sidux system here to KDE4.3.x. It 
proceeded to uninstall all of my KDE3 apps, then install KDE4 and try to 
reinstall the KDE4 versions of my KDE3 apps. There was a real shortage 
of those. But it was all moot because KDE4 wouldn't run, anyway, some 
disagreement with X.org.

I figure that around KDE4.5, it will finally be as usable as KDE3.5.

Oh, well, I'm the weirdo at work who always sets Windows XP to pick 
performance over eye candy ...

-- 
David
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