[LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio

[Fred]

>>> Personally, I'm averse against all forms of advertising :)
>>>
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>> That's interesting. So how do you feel about for example, Google? A Linux
>> focused company that makes the bulk of it's revenue from advertising, that
>> contributes a significant amount of money to open source development and
>> even employs members of this the Linux Audio Community. They also happen
>> to be one of the largest companies in the tech world.
>>      
> We're getting a bit OT here, but it's fun to get known to each other,
> isn't it..
>    
Yes, please gentlemen tell us about that
> RedHat is doing a fine job. But different rules apply: linuxaudio.org is
> a community site, RedHat is a company. Apples and Oranges.
>    
May we eat Pineapples instead, or not ?
>    
>> How about Ubuntu? Should Mark Shuttelworth feel sorry for advertising the
>> viability of the ubuntu experience?
>>      
> My "ubuntu experience" is a rather sad story. I recommend to most PPL
> not to use Ubuntu.
>
>    
I recommend People to learn Debian, but it's good if they ask from 
Ubuntu instead of Wdw$...
>> Should they stop marketing and promotions?
>>      
> yes, I'd very much prefer that.
>
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>> What about Ardour and Harrison or even Trinity Audio Group? Should they
>> stop accepting paid advertising or paying for advertising/marketing
>> opportunities?
>>      
> There's advertisement on ardour.org ?
>    
THERE IS, in the very center of
http://ardour.org/
BUT, it's not necessary a bad thing...
Means, Paul is one of the rare persons to live by FLOSS,
every subscriptor knows that ! (at least, I do)))

>> Not to mention TV and Radio. Both industries represent a significant
>> potential revenue stream for Linux Audio businesses.
>>      
> /me does not have a TV nor Radio :)
>    
/me the same for tv, but could you mention any FLOSS radio-tv ?
>
> My personal opinion aside:
>
>
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+1 on below :
> Nobody complained that you put a link to _your_ site on the pages _you_
> maintain on *.linuxaudio.org - but 3rd party interests - esp paid - is
> questionable.
>
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>> Do the other members of this community feel so strongly too? That
>> advertising is without merit
Advertising, merit is not invoked in that, it's here to sell !!!
>>   and should be avoided like the plague for
>> fear of contaminating out precious Linux Audio Ecosystem.
>>      
Plague is not appropriated, if you see what I means, some images are too 
strong...
>> Are we so succeptable to the evil powers of corporations that seek to
>> control our message and brand
Brand, one more time....
>> that we cannot manage to hold our own ground
>> and even take control

Keeping the control, yep, that's the point here !
>>   of the message for our own purposes to promote the
>> viability and power of the Linux Audio Platform and tools?
>>      
Again, the

viability and power will never been aquired by advertise, but
with proofs of viability and power, from mouth to ears...

> probably not, but there's a big lack of manpower behind linuxaudio.org
> esp when it comes to bureaucracy, administration and PR. It'd be easy to
> subvert the medium and the message.
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Hope it'll be not !
Fred
> ciao,
> robin
>