[LAU] Study Finds New Pop Music Does All Sound the Same.

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Tue Aug 7 17:07:41 UTC 2012

I agree with [1].

It's important that

"On 07/08/12 09:59, Len Ovens wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, August 6, 2012 2:57 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:"

is a mistake regarding to the quoting. No problem this can happen. David
wrote about the percentage and Paul about the more monied classes.

My interpretation of "more monied classes" is "better educated classes",
we should keep in mind, that we have the people who guess music has to
do with knowledge and the people who guess that music is from the heart.

We can be uneducated, without money and have no time out, but anyway
sing while picking cotton.


On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 00:27 +0800, [1] Simon Wise wrote:
> On 07/08/12 09:59, Len Ovens wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, August 6, 2012 2:57 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>>> I suspect the percentage of people actively recording and performing
> >>>> music is a lot lower. Back in Bach's time, everyone was expected to
> >>>> be able to sing, for instance.
> >>
> >>> citation? i seriously doubt this. perhaps the more monied classes, but
> >>> not the population as  whole.
> not sure about the monied bit ... singing is cheap, and many people take some 
> part in social activities ... with or without money.
> plus singing and music have been part of rituals almost everywhere, including 
> church ones in christian places ... and in that time church was very much part 
> of most peoples life. Or here in Australia music and dance has been an important 
> way of keeping stories and history told for maybe 50 thousand years. Some say 
> that the big animals that became extinct soon after people first arrived here 
> are still recorded in those songs, but also much more recent history is to ... a 
> show I was involved with a few years ago had a series of traditional pieces from 
> the islands north of Darwin, and one depicted the bombing of the station there 
> by Japanese planes on their way to Darwin. The dancers depicted planes and the 
> action in exactly the same style as they had depicted the animals in the other 
> stories, this dance was 50 or 60 years old when I saw it. Everyone takes part in 
> those occasions, in many cultures.
> There is a fascinating chapter at the start of:
> "The Information: : A History, a Theory, a Flood" by James Gleick, 2011
> describing the music/language of the talking drums in parts of africa - how the 
> way the 2 tones of the drums are used to encode news and information in a way 
> that has lots of redundancy and built in error correction so the message can be 
> passed through many hands and not get confused along the way. The drummers 
> certainly had quite a lot of training, but the intricate encoding was read by 
> everyone. Music plays a lot of different roles, it is a very old part of human 
> culture.

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