[LAU] bitwig announcement

david gnome at hawaii.rr.com
Fri Jan 20 19:03:51 UTC 2012


On 01/20/2012 07:03 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> On Friday, January 20, 2012 11:17:28 AM Rustom Mody did opine:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine<
> [...]
>
>>> If you are musician in the first place, then it's a matter of what
>>> works best for you. If you are geek in the first place, then there's
>>> no way you will abandon free software, so what's the problem? :)
>
> :-)
>
>>> We are talking about competition which is a natural thing. Rosegarden
>>> can lose users to MusE or Qtractor. Qtractor can lose users to Ardour.
>>> It happens all the time. Can you see any of the developers crying,
>>> because they are all alone? :)
>
> Nope, its good that there is a plethora of ways to approach audio on a
> linux system.
>
>>> Alexandre Prokoudine
>>> http://libregraphicsworld.org
>>
>> Some may like to see this:
>> http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm
>> [And some may not :-) ]
>
> Con nails it on the head there IMO.
>
> One distribution that I am aware of has made some kernels with his BFS
> patches, and I have been running those kernels on this pclos machine for
> quite a while.  The improvement in response from the users experience angle
> has to be experienced in order to believe it.  Its better than the
> deadline, its better than the teeny bit they did put into mainline&  called
> cfs.  When I do feel a lag, I can glance up at  the gkrellm display and see
> that something else of likely dubious utility, has all 4 cores of this
> phenom loaded to 75+%. That stuff should run in between key presses, NOT
> delay them IMO.
>
> The one thing I always admired about the amiga was that regardless of what
> some graphics rendering application such as lightwave was doing, the
> amiga's response to the keyboard or mouse were absolutely instant, and it
> was done on a machine with a 25 mhz 68040 cpu, often with 8 megs or less of
> main memory.

The Amiga was a most unusual machine by today's standard's. Unlike Macs 
and PCs, it had 2 graphics coprocessors and an audio processor. They had 
true multi-processor hardware, features that other systems only acquired 
years later.

> Heck, at the tv station where I was the CE for nearly 20 years, a stock
> 1200 and a Supergen (genlock kit) did all of our station ID graphics for
> nearly 10 years.  Only taken down when we converted to digital.

The Video Toaster?

> Linux, today, still could not have done that because we'd have had to
> schedule the trigger some random amount from 1/2 second to 10 seconds ahead
> of time. 'scuse me but that's bs, all that background stuff can be parked
> on the stack while the job it is being asked to do, gets done.  But no,
> linux, with its kilobyte stack limit, it is far more important to finish
> that background housekeeping task that doesn't mean squat because there
> isn't room to save it on the stack.  The fact that interactivity sucks
> because of that limit simply is not on Ingo's radar.  I long since gave up
> banging on his mailbox with complaints, but a chance posting of a link here
> pulled my trigger.
>
> I am after all, now a diabetic, crotchety old fart of 77 who quit school
> and went out to fix tv's in 1948, and who has watched this computing thing
> take off almost from the gitgo.  It has come quite a ways since the first
> program I wrote that ran on an RCA 1802 based machine, and which did a job
> to perfection for at least 12 years that I know of, after I had headed on
> down the road in search of that mythical greener pasture.
>
> Cheers, Gene


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