On 10/25/2012 03:29 AM, michael noble wrote: > it never ceases to amaze me how the LAU and LAD lists > are some of the nastiest, most brutal mailing lists around. what? give e.g. lkml.org or other lists at vger.kernel.org a go for a day. I'm sure you'll be back with the nice and polite linux audio community in no time :) Cheers! robin