[LAU] eyes verses ears

[Gabbe Nord]

Hello Rusty!

As you referred to me in the original post, I just figured I'd briefly
explain what I mainly use the analyzer for. It's as simple as me not having
a subwoofer or a reliable set of headphones for the bass. Neither my
monitors nor my studio heaphones have any noteworthy bass-response under
70hz or so, which is where most of my bass is usually. I have a set of
headphones that are of the "gamer-kind", which I've learned to use for
bass. So, what I do when mixing usually, is that I use the analyzer to
check the bass. I've learned through my time mixing my things just about
how I want it to sound, or at least the general idea. It's in no way any
substitute for the final mix and master (where I find enough systems to
listen to, and reliably mix the bass), but it's an easy way for me to keep
it in control while I'm doing the heavy work.

That's my use-case at least. :)


On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Rusty Perez <rustys.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes Ralf and J. your distinction between measuring and just
> visualizing makes lots of sense to me. And Julien, I think you are
> basically saying the same thing. A graphical tool may make it quicker
> and easier to isolate problems and take measurements to improve audio
> quality.
>
> Monty, I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here.
> I wouldn't say that anyone needs to throw away their measurement tools
> when engineering equipment for best performance, but I have heard of
> blind listening comparisons where audiofiles couldn't reliably tell
> the difference between two given studio amplifiers, or between given
> sets of speaker cables.
> I recognize that "just listen" may be a trite way of dismissing valid
> points, but isn't listening the primary goal here?
> But I do agree with you that if using a visual representation helps
> more quickly and accurately improve the auditory experience, then
> that's a good thing.
>
> Interesting stuff
> Rusty
>
>
>
> On 7/4/13, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > Visualisation is helpful for troubleshooting, if e.g. something does
> > sound distorted, then taking a look at a meterbridge could be
> > timesaving.
> > Phase correlation does ensure that the phases are ok for airplay.
> > However, visualisation isn't needed, but could be helpful.
> >
> > For analog recordings measurements at least are needed for bias
> > calibration.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ralf
> >
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