[LAU] [Bulk] Re: Lossy audio to lossless format

Chris Bannister cbannister at slingshot.co.nz
Sun Oct 5 12:47:28 UTC 2014

On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 12:40:51PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 09:14 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
> > wrote:
> >         
> >         Your ears are probably the best tool. Some hear well, and some
> >         do not.
> >         I am amazed at the number of people who cannot tell if mp3 has
> >         ever been
> >         in the mix. To me its obvious, when your ears get tired of it,
> >         and want to
> >         "change the station" in just a minute or so, its been an mp3
> >         at some
> >         point.
> > 
> > 
> > For crying out loud, stop this nonsense!
> > 
> > 
> > It is established without any shadow of a doubt that the overwhelming
> > majority of the population CANNOT tell the difference between a
> > reasonable bit-rate encoding in mp3 format and the original PCM data.
> > This isn't up for debate.
> For crying out loud, stop this nonsense Paul!
> Just because several people can't distinguish cheese made of raw milk
> with cheese made from heated milk, doesn't mean that the tests are ok.
> I'm unable to stand heated milk, I'm unable to stand cheese made from
> heated mild and I'm unable to stand MP3. Yes, there are double-blind
> tests that confirm that people guess the real taste of a strawberry is
> the artificial taste and that the natural taste is artificial. IOW if
> you make double-blind tests with degenerated idiots, the results will be
> idiotic.
> Please post links about MP3 double-blind test done with human beings who
> still remember how a real strawberry or banana yogurt does taste, who
> know how a real Camembert made from raw milk does taste.
> What group of people was unable to distinguish between a good recording
> and a MP3?

Spot on Ralf! You've said it way better than I ever could. 
Once you've actually *heard* good sound, an MP3 coming from a computer
just doesn't cut it.

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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