[LAU] CPU and mobo

Ede Wolf listac at nebelschwaden.de
Sat Dec 19 23:14:47 UTC 2015


That's why I personally went with AMD. No HT, no onboard/onchip Video. 
And some other advantages, abeit the computing power per cycle and/or 
Watt is likely to be higher on probably any desktop intel.

But my link was just to let people who forgot about it check out what is 
available and choose the best compromise for them. Unfortunately AMD 
does no offer such a page, maybe for a reason, or I haven't found it so 
far. But still you might get no HT/VGA for a lower price there, with 
other compromises to make, for sure.


Am 19.12.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Len Ovens:
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015, Ede Wolf wrote:
>
>> Am 19.12.2015 um 17:47 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:36:02 -0800 (PST), Len Ovens wrote:
>>>> Even graphics on the chip reduces performance in other areas.
>>>
>>> But this seems to be standard for all new Intel and AMD.
>>
>> Nope. Still plenty of choice for CPU and Mobos without onboard or
>> onchip graphics.
>>
>> For Intel CPUs, you may select (and deselect) some of your desired
>> features on this well known site:
>>
>>
>> http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t
>
> Discount the Xeon D, Pentium, i5 and Atom CPUs as they are BGA and meant
> to come soldered to the board. (I think the Xeon D is meant to replace
> the Atom userver CPUs) Also note that the ones that say "up to 3.* Ghz"
> are showing the top Boost speed, not the running speed. (the i7)
>
> Yes there are some CPUs with no GPU, but they are either BGA for
> embedded apps, or high end. Unusable on most MB or too expensive. The
> other thing is that deselecting hyperthreading, leaves only the slowest
> things around. For example, the xeon E3 at 3ghz which is about the same
> as my i5 at 3.2ghz with Graphics... meant for low power uses. The xeon E5
> with 6 cores only runs at 1.9Ghz... also a low power version. When I was
> looking into this stuff, I found that the MB that can handle even the
> low end xeon (where the CPU price was close to the i5) was almost double
> the price.
>
> So yes, there are no-GPU CPUs around, but they are not very useful.
>
> Thanks for the link though, I might keep that around.
>
> --
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