[LAU] Google Magenta project's first composition

Paul Davis paul at linuxaudiosystems.com
Sat Jun 4 20:08:14 UTC 2016

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Will Godfrey <willgodfrey at musically.me.uk>

> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 21:21:10 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:09:02 -0400, tom haddington wrote:
> > >One might observe that the machine wrote bad music.  Well, humans are
> > >already doing that, too, so Magenta has gotten at least that far!  As
> > >with chess machines, it may be a matter of time.
> >
> > The point isn't, if a machine is able to fake music, it doesn't
> > matter, if it's good or bad faked music. What the machine generates is
> > completely uninteresting to me, since a machine has got no
> > emotions I'm interested in. A machine has got no emotions at all, so
> > even if the machine would generate "good music", it would be faked "good
> > music", emotional fraud. Human impostors are able to e.g. fake love.
> > Victims often feel more loved by an impostor, than by somebody who
> > really loves them. Fraud could make us feel good, we anyway
> > dislike fraud. That just shows what kind of company Google is. A human
> > might be an untalented musician, but at least a human usually has got
> > real emotions. A machine that is able to fake "good music" has got
> > absolutely nothing to do with progress. It's a damage. Developing
> > something like this shows the unimaginativeness of the developers.
> > Nobody needs it, it's good for absolutely nothing and even not a
> > useful step to learn something for useful AI projects or something
> > like this.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ralf
> For once I'm in total agreement with Ralf :o

if this argument was totally solid, then there'd be no place for "process
music", which also has absolutely nothing to do with expressing emotions.
That means, for a start, no early Reichian minimalism. I don't want to live
in that world. Be my guest.
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