[LAU] Google Magenta project's first composition

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Sun Jun 5 07:57:01 UTC 2016


On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 00:33:27 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
>On 06/05/2016 12:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 22:12:24 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:  
>>> great emotional impact on audience does not require great emotional
>>> investment of performer/author.  
>>
>> To decide to make music, because you like this kind of art is
>> emotional. Why don't we play soccer, run amok, plant a tree at the
>> time we decide to make music? We decide to make music, experienced a
>> sunset, by love,  
>
>   why did you remove the part when I write about how the author might 
>not be human or intelligent in any sense at all (flower, sunset etc.). 
>That was the point.

The sunset happens without intelligence or emotion at all and there's
no doubt that it could cause emotions to somebody watching the sunset.

>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 22:16:53 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:  
>emotions only come up in systems that are complex enough (that 
>doesn't mean that all complex systems would have emotions, just that
>the current AI is too simple to have emotions and that complex enough
>AI *might* eventually have emotions).

Emotions are required, they fulfil a "function" of life. they are the
cause to protect ourself, to be kindhearted, human etc., nothing like
that is required for a machine to exist. The sunset itself doesn't make
music, even the flower, a living being doesn't make music.


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