[LAU] Linkedin - Out

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Wed Jun 15 17:36:15 UTC 2016

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:17:58 +0200, Louigi Verona wrote:
>And I prefer to call out BS when I see it.

No, you spread misinformation.

Will's fear is based on facts. What do you think is the interest of
companies to provide freebie services and to collect endless histories
of user data and to take over other companies that are doing the same?
Assumed you are using such a service, then request all the data that is
stored by your account. This seems to be possible, at least in some
countries. Usually they not only store the current data of your
account, they store histories of your account and everything they are
able to track. Even storing all this data does cost money. Why should
they do this, if there shouldn't be an interest. What do you think is
the reason for the enormes market value of some known companies? This
data is used to control people. Apart from water and food
companies, those companies are the most controversy and richest
companies. At the moment there are also some other companies on top of
those lists, e.g. a known oil company, but the richest and most
controversy already are water, food and data mining companies.

Will opened the thread, with an explanation, but he didn't start a

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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:03:45 +0200
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: Louigi Verona
Cc: Will Godfrey, "jonetsu at teksavvy.com"
Subject: [off-list] [LAU] Linkedin - Out

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:23:09 +0200, Louigi Verona wrote:
>Which is exactly why I am asking Will what exactly he is afraid of. The
>need to run off of LinkedIn, scrambling information about oneself,
>because Microsoft buys it, shows irrational hatred for Microsoft that
>is probably ideologically charged. And probably hints at all the free
>software alarmist propaganda about how "corporations are controlling
>you", which is in the vast majority of cases is simply
>misrepresentation of actual state of things.  


it's off-topic and apart from this the assumption is idiotic.
Even data mining of anonymous data is evil and it becomes more evil,
the more data is in the hands of just a few companies. If you don't
understand this, it makes no sense even trying to explain this. So
please, stop this off-topic discussion. There's no indication that
Will wastes his time with hate. He's just naive to think that
"poisoning" the existing data, will make the already stored data less
useful for misuse by such companies, or that this data would be
overwritten. Such user profiles have a history, not accessible for the
users. This is an important topic for the EU and especially German data
protection supervisors and activists. Feel free to inform yourself about
this serious issue, instead of assuming hate.


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