[LAU] getting LFE channel to work with PulseAudio 5.1

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 10:12:22 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>at some point of time jackd and pulseaudio needed _different_ settings
>in order to work properly 

Hi :D

then why did you questioned a while ago that some users don't want to
install pulseaudio, or even recommend to remove it for troubleshooting
purpose, given that some audio cards, e.g. the HDSPe AIO I own doesn't
work properly with Linux at all. The HDSPe AIO of other Linux users
might work without all of the issues I experience, but at least they
must suffer from some issues I experience, too, e.g. Ardour can't be
used with ALSA instead of jackd. So risking that additionally pulseaudio
_could_ cause issues makes no sense. There is no purpose using
pulseaudio for most DAW usage and at least in the past it nearly was
impossible to grant disabling pulseaudio without failure.

IOW your claim maintaining a Linux install without pulseaudio would be
more time intensive, than using pulseaudio, or at least to test if it
should work trouble-free nowadays, while it caused issues for
years, makes no sense, too.

There are just a few use case where pulseaudio might be useful for a
DAW, while for most DAW usages it's completely needless and apart from
some bloated DE's that require it for absolutely no valid reason as a
hard dependency (an empty dummy package to fulfil such a
pseudo-hard-dependency doesn't cause any issues), there is no good
environment that requires pulseaudio as a hard dependency at all.

There are even idiotic attempts to render dummy packages useless, but
actually they fail :p, e.g. enforcing another useless hard dependency
for a DAW that requires a release "=" of pulseaudio, for a rolling
release model distro like Arch Linux, that anyway doesn't allow partial
upgrades, so that the "=" is completely irrelevant.

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ pacman -Si pulseaudio-bluetooth | grep On
Depends On      : pulseaudio=11.1-1  bluez  bluez-libs  sbc

IOW claiming that something is wrong with people who dislike pulseaudio
is strange, seemingly something is wrong with those who are unable to
stop trying to enforce pulseaudio to everybody, by even the most
grotesque efforts.

;)
Ralf