[LAU] Hardware Soundcard - MOTU 624 AVB Working with Gnu/Linux - Debian 8.7

Moshe Werner moshwe at gmail.com
Mon Dec 25 13:53:59 UTC 2017


Hi,

I'm currently on 1.2.9+28.
For me it's only possible to start jack when I configure it for 24 channels
I/O

Maybe I should downgrade?

On Dec 25, 2017 15:02, "Anders Hellquist" <lau at hellquist.net> wrote:

> Hi !
>
> I am currently running the public beta for my card which is 1.3.4+539 and
> that is limiting the USB streams.
>
> The last one with configurable USB streaming for my card was. 1.2.8+378
>
>
> I hope the first one for your card 1.2.9+28 still has the option and maybe
> 1.3.0+59 do as well.
>
> The changlog suggests to me that 1.3.1 is the first crippled one for your
> card but since I don't have a 624, I can't check.
>
> Best regards, Anders
>
> On Dec 25, 2017 1:32 PM, "Moshe Werner" <moshwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Anders,
>>
>> Thanks for that information!
>> I wondered why I'm not able anymore to stream 64 channels.
>> I have the Motu 1248, which firmware are you on?
>> Do you know which it is for the 1248?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Moshe
>>
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2017 14:12, "Anders Hellquist" <lau at hellquist.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have the Ultralite AVB and have downgraded my card as per
>> recommendations from Motu tech support. The reason for me was to be able to
>> use more than 24ch stream in CC more from my computer. That option is
>> removed on later firmware. The latest public beta firmware which probably
>> is available for 624 has a very nice touch console. (Mixer made for touch
>> based surfaces that will be a nice addition)
>>
>> My understanding is that you should be able to downgrade as you please
>> but I can not guarantee anything. Tech support is great and will probably
>> respond quickly even if "Operating system = Other"
>>
>> /Anders
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2017 2:36 PM, "georgnk" <georg_nik at yahoo.gr> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> When I tried to upload the file with older firmwares I couldn't. The
>>> warning
>>> was that I was trying to upload an out of dated firmware. Is there any
>>> way
>>> to downgrade?
>>>
>>> For sure the web interface using windows Os doesn't show something new
>>> such
>>> as bios menu...Except I am blind
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> list-2 wrote
>>> > Hello.
>>> >
>>> > i still use an old firmware. As i do not really trust  - yet - MOTU
>>> with
>>> > Gnu/Linux.
>>> >
>>> > Keep in mind that if this AVB series products work under Gnu/Linux, i
>>> > think it's more a side effect from USB audio Class compliant than a
>>> real
>>> > desire from MOTU (it has to work for Apple/Ipad).
>>> >
>>> > As this new v1.3.2+102 firmware shows that you have nothing new in the
>>> > web interface ( no bios menu added with other options ? ) it may do
>>> > something for Windows/Apple Os's users ?!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2017-12-21 02:35, georgnk wrote:
>>> >> Hi.
>>> >> Yes the firmware is v1.3.2+102 (520 is for the avb)
>>> >> I don't know either what the bios menu is doing. I can only find bios
>>> >> if I
>>> >> press the select button from my interface and shows some info,nothing
>>> >> more.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you test it one day please let me know if you also have this
>>> (minor)
>>> >> issue.
>>> >>
>>> >> Have nice holidays. Cheers!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> list-2 wrote
>>> >>> Hello.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am away from my computer with the MOTU 624 AVB for the holidays.
>>> >>> I'll
>>> >>> make a try when i'll be back.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> But i've just checked the firmware pages of MOTU's web site and :
>>> >>>
>>> >>> v1.3.2+520 (Release Date 2017-12-13)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> A new one as been added few days ago. I've never tried this one.
>>> >>> Is the the firmware you running your card with ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The change log says :
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Added Bios menu
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hmm i'm really wonder what it does, and if it break anything with
>>> >>> Gnu/Linux Os.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers !
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 2017-12-20 02:41, georgnk wrote:
>>> >>>> Hello thank you for the reply.
>>> >>>> The clicks are periodic.well,not strictly periodic but almost every
>>> >>>> two
>>> >>>> seconds. I have tried your suggestions but didn't change something.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> What I have also discovered is that the clicks are not passing
>>> >>>> through
>>> >>>> my
>>> >>>> software. Testing a sine wave and using a spectrum analysis in real
>>> >>>> time,
>>> >>>> sndpeek, clicks don't show up there. It seems they are coming
>>> >>>> directly
>>> >>>> to my
>>> >>>> monitors (headphones)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks a lot
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Len Ovens wrote
>>> >>>>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, georgnk wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I can also select my sound card without qjackctl and Jackd.
>>> >>>>>> Pure data can see my input s and outputs directly. Then I go audio
>>> >>>>>> test
>>> >>>>>> play
>>> >>>>>> the sine wave , wait a while, I move frequency up and down,clicks
>>> >>>>>> start
>>> >>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>> never stop.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> If these are random clicks, that sounds like sync issues. Some
>>> >>>>> things
>>> >>>>> to
>>> >>>>> try:
>>> >>>>>   - set pulse default and alternate sample rate to 48000
>>> >>>>>   - turn off HDA audio either in bios or in pulse:
>>> >>>>>           pactl unload-module module-udev-detect
>>> >>>>>           pactl unload-module module-alsa-card
>>> >>>>>           (note that if pulse can see any audio card directly,
>>> >>>>>           it may choose to sync from that one even if you are
>>> >>>>>           not using it)
>>> >>>>>   - try different sample rates, in particular both 44100 and
>>> >>>>>           48000. It may be that alsa is under the impression
>>> >>>>>           it can set sample rate when that is not the case.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I have not seen in this thread any meantion of the web interface
>>> >>>>> that
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>> motu AVB series interfaces normally have, so I am guessing this is
>>> >>>>> not
>>> >>>>> one
>>> >>>>> of these boxes. Motu's support in the past with Linux has be
>>> >>>>> notoriously
>>> >>>>> bad until the AVB series, so you may have something that will not
>>> >>>>> work
>>> >>>>> with Linux properly... as in, it is USB2.0 compliant so far as
>>> sound
>>> >>>>> transfer is concerned, but expects a provided blob to do device
>>> >>>>> setup.
>>> >>>>> The
>>> >>>>> AVB series uses a web based setup tool that is OS agnostic.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> --
>>> >>>>> Len Ovens
>>> >>>>> www.ovenwerks.net
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