[LAU] Hardware Soundcard - MOTU 624 AVB Working with Gnu/Linux - Debian 8.7

[Anders Hellquist]

I don't think there is any older firmware for 624
According to MOTU firmware change log 1.2.9 is the first initial firmware
devices are shipped with.

http://motu.com/techsupport/technotes/firmwarechangelog/

/Anders

mån 25 dec. 2017 kl. 14:54 skrev Moshe Werner <moshwe at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> I'm currently on 1.2.9+28.
> For me it's only possible to start jack when I configure it for 24
> channels I/O
>
> Maybe I should downgrade?
>
> On Dec 25, 2017 15:02, "Anders Hellquist" <lau at hellquist.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi !
>>
>> I am currently running the public beta for my card which is 1.3.4+539 and
>> that is limiting the USB streams.
>>
>> The last one with configurable USB streaming for my card was. 1.2.8+378
>>
>>
>> I hope the first one for your card 1.2.9+28 still has the option and
>> maybe 1.3.0+59 do as well.
>>
>> The changlog suggests to me that 1.3.1 is the first crippled one for your
>> card but since I don't have a 624, I can't check.
>>
>> Best regards, Anders
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2017 1:32 PM, "Moshe Werner" <moshwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Anders,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that information!
>>> I wondered why I'm not able anymore to stream 64 channels.
>>> I have the Motu 1248, which firmware are you on?
>>> Do you know which it is for the 1248?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Moshe
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 25, 2017 14:12, "Anders Hellquist" <lau at hellquist.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I have the Ultralite AVB and have downgraded my card as per
>>> recommendations from Motu tech support. The reason for me was to be able to
>>> use more than 24ch stream in CC more from my computer. That option is
>>> removed on later firmware. The latest public beta firmware which probably
>>> is available for 624 has a very nice touch console. (Mixer made for touch
>>> based surfaces that will be a nice addition)
>>>
>>> My understanding is that you should be able to downgrade as you please
>>> but I can not guarantee anything. Tech support is great and will probably
>>> respond quickly even if "Operating system = Other"
>>>
>>> /Anders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2017 2:36 PM, "georgnk" <georg_nik at yahoo.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> When I tried to upload the file with older firmwares I couldn't. The
>>>> warning
>>>> was that I was trying to upload an out of dated firmware. Is there any
>>>> way
>>>> to downgrade?
>>>>
>>>> For sure the web interface using windows Os doesn't show something new
>>>> such
>>>> as bios menu...Except I am blind
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> list-2 wrote
>>>> > Hello.
>>>> >
>>>> > i still use an old firmware. As i do not really trust  - yet - MOTU
>>>> with
>>>> > Gnu/Linux.
>>>> >
>>>> > Keep in mind that if this AVB series products work under Gnu/Linux, i
>>>> > think it's more a side effect from USB audio Class compliant than a
>>>> real
>>>> > desire from MOTU (it has to work for Apple/Ipad).
>>>> >
>>>> > As this new v1.3.2+102 firmware shows that you have nothing new in the
>>>> > web interface ( no bios menu added with other options ? ) it may do
>>>> > something for Windows/Apple Os's users ?!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2017-12-21 02:35, georgnk wrote:
>>>> >> Hi.
>>>> >> Yes the firmware is v1.3.2+102 (520 is for the avb)
>>>> >> I don't know either what the bios menu is doing. I can only find bios
>>>> >> if I
>>>> >> press the select button from my interface and shows some info,nothing
>>>> >> more.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If you test it one day please let me know if you also have this
>>>> (minor)
>>>> >> issue.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have nice holidays. Cheers!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> list-2 wrote
>>>> >>> Hello.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I am away from my computer with the MOTU 624 AVB for the holidays.
>>>> >>> I'll
>>>> >>> make a try when i'll be back.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But i've just checked the firmware pages of MOTU's web site and :
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> v1.3.2+520 (Release Date 2017-12-13)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> A new one as been added few days ago. I've never tried this one.
>>>> >>> Is the the firmware you running your card with ?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The change log says :
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Added Bios menu
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hmm i'm really wonder what it does, and if it break anything with
>>>> >>> Gnu/Linux Os.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Cheers !
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 2017-12-20 02:41, georgnk wrote:
>>>> >>>> Hello thank you for the reply.
>>>> >>>> The clicks are periodic.well,not strictly periodic but almost every
>>>> >>>> two
>>>> >>>> seconds. I have tried your suggestions but didn't change something.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> What I have also discovered is that the clicks are not passing
>>>> >>>> through
>>>> >>>> my
>>>> >>>> software. Testing a sine wave and using a spectrum analysis in real
>>>> >>>> time,
>>>> >>>> sndpeek, clicks don't show up there. It seems they are coming
>>>> >>>> directly
>>>> >>>> to my
>>>> >>>> monitors (headphones)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thanks a lot
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Len Ovens wrote
>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017, georgnk wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I can also select my sound card without qjackctl and Jackd.
>>>> >>>>>> Pure data can see my input s and outputs directly. Then I go
>>>> audio
>>>> >>>>>> test
>>>> >>>>>> play
>>>> >>>>>> the sine wave , wait a while, I move frequency up and down,clicks
>>>> >>>>>> start
>>>> >>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>> never stop.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> If these are random clicks, that sounds like sync issues. Some
>>>> >>>>> things
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> try:
>>>> >>>>>   - set pulse default and alternate sample rate to 48000
>>>> >>>>>   - turn off HDA audio either in bios or in pulse:
>>>> >>>>>           pactl unload-module module-udev-detect
>>>> >>>>>           pactl unload-module module-alsa-card
>>>> >>>>>           (note that if pulse can see any audio card directly,
>>>> >>>>>           it may choose to sync from that one even if you are
>>>> >>>>>           not using it)
>>>> >>>>>   - try different sample rates, in particular both 44100 and
>>>> >>>>>           48000. It may be that alsa is under the impression
>>>> >>>>>           it can set sample rate when that is not the case.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I have not seen in this thread any meantion of the web interface
>>>> >>>>> that
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> motu AVB series interfaces normally have, so I am guessing this is
>>>> >>>>> not
>>>> >>>>> one
>>>> >>>>> of these boxes. Motu's support in the past with Linux has be
>>>> >>>>> notoriously
>>>> >>>>> bad until the AVB series, so you may have something that will not
>>>> >>>>> work
>>>> >>>>> with Linux properly... as in, it is USB2.0 compliant so far as
>>>> sound
>>>> >>>>> transfer is concerned, but expects a provided blob to do device
>>>> >>>>> setup.
>>>> >>>>> The
>>>> >>>>> AVB series uses a web based setup tool that is OS agnostic.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> --
>>>> >>>>> Len Ovens
>>>> >>>>> www.ovenwerks.net
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