[LAU] Choirless - a new low-latency AI remote music collaboration platform

Bill Purvis bill at billp.org
Tue May 11 17:22:38 CEST 2021

On 11/05/2021 15:54, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> On 11/05/2021 16:11, Bill Purvis wrote:
>> On 11/05/2021 15:04, Robert Jonsson wrote:
>>> With my band we will try Jamulus as as soon as we find the time.
>>> https://jamulus.io
>>> This far I have installed and played around with it. A bit rough
>>> around the edges but looks like with some massaging it could do the
>>> trick nicely.
>> I took a look at it and I think its under false pretences - it would 
>> seem
>> that each person operates in isolation, with a 'master track' to play 
>> along with,
>> then the server adds the various tracks together to produce the final 
>> version.
>> Low-latency doesn't really come into it unless my understanding is 
>> way off.
> if I get your meaning quite right you are indeed way off. You don't 
> work with a
> master track. All musicians are playing life into their local 
> installed jamulus
> client, each clients sends the local audio stream to a server (could 
> be any of
> the freely available or a self hosted one) and the mix is 
> re-transmitted back to
> each member. This works very well for a round trip latency up to about 
> 40 ms,
> above that its not really fun.
> Our test have been partly good partly bad. If the participants are in 
> totally
> different networks (e.g. Cable and DSL (don't know the correct English 
> names))
> over all latency was above 100 ms and rehearsal wasn't possible but if 
> all
> participants are in the same network (here e.g. DSL deutsche Telekom) 
> latency
> has been about 30 - 40 ms and rehearsal was fine.
> For sure you must use headphones and LAN to your router (no wireless, no
> Bluetooth) to minimize latency as much as possible.
> hope that helps
> Gerhard
My Apologies!
I intended it to refer to Choirless, not Jamulus!

To hasty on my part....


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