20 Apr
2012
20 Apr
'12
1:40 a.m.
Hi,
I appreciate your point of view but I feel it is more of a board decision
about how we handle sponsorship opportunities rather than a single persons
call.
- Being a "not for profit" organisation does not mean that we are not able
to take any cash contributions. Instead it means that we are obligated to
spend all the funding that we receive in support of our charter/mission.
Anyway at the moment we are not officially registered as not for profit so
that means we have no obligations under the "Not for Profit" laws for
funding.
Of course we don't have to take payments directly to Linuxaudio.org or the
Consortium. Both Daniel and myself have registered companies that can
legally act as proxies and deal with the accounting issues with no impact
on Linuxaudio.org. After all it is simply a website with a .org suffix
from a legal point of view. The Linux Audio Consortium is a completely
seperate entity again. There is no legal requirement for the consortium to
have any financial duties for the Linuxaudio.org domain name and/or any
content hosted under that url.
- As we already have sponsored advertising I don't see why it is a problem
to allow *some* of the subdomains to host paid advertisements. As long as
they meet the requirements of whatever policy we come up with.
I have suggested that lau.linuxaudio.org and quicktoots.linuxaudio.org be
hosted on my private server. These domains have always been about
providing a "fun" entry into the Linux Audio Community so it seems to me
they are prime places for *appropriate* paid advertising.
- I have no problem with taking payments, handling the accounting process
and distributing the cash in whichever way we determine to be the most
appropriate. Daniel and I have already established a working relationship
between Boost Hardware Ltd and 64 Studio Ltd.
- In a perfect world I would love to be able to earn enough money from the
"Linux Audio" digital channel to pay for content contributions,
development and design in addition to hosting and maintenance costs. I
think it is entirely within our charter to operate a professionally run
digital media channel for the purpose of promoting the Linux Audio
platform and open source multimedia software/hardware and businesses.
I have already established http://linuxmusicvideos.com. I am currently
looking into the costs for purchasing the linuxaudio.com domain name. The
whois for that domain is mysterious. I suspect it is already owned by one
of our members.
Cheers
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
On Thu, April 19, 2012 9:56 pm, Robin Gareus wrote:
Hi *,
Personally, I am against any commercial for-profit advertising on
*.linuxaudio.org domain and sub-domains. I suggest to use your own
domain-name for doing so.
As Ico already pointed out: "we cannot make money off the site unless we
move to private hosting" -- private hosting equivalent to what vt.edu
offers us incl. unlimited traffic, 3 hourly, 7 nightly and 4 weekly full
backups of our 300GByte volume plus 24h support is probably >= $300 per
month. I guess Ico could find out the exact numbers, though i suppose
it's better not to ask :)
Besides, linuxaudio.org is a not-for-profit organization. As soon as we
receive money - for any subdomain -, someone would need to spend the
money and take care of accounting. Daniel who pays the DNS registration
for linuxaudio.org every year would be on top of the list to receive a
few beers from our first revenue.
best,
robin
PS. some lac.linuxaudio.org pages do indeed feature links to sponsors
which and may fall under the category "advertising". However, none of
those is for-profit. The "sponsors" are institutions or companies who
directly support the Linux Audio Conference - mostly with non-financial
contributions: e.g. this year: LWN ran an ad-campaign for us; Stanford
sponsored location, coffee, Nando & Bruno's time, etc; CiTu.fr allowed
me to co-organize LAC while being employed there,..
For the record, the LAC is under the auspices of the institution that
hosts the conference, linuxaudio.org is providing free hosting for the
conference site to the benefit the LA community.
Besides, all external links on lac.linuxaudio.org and
wiki.linuxaudio.org are marked as rel="external" which defeats SEO to
some extent. If you find some links on *.linuxaudio.org to commercial
sites that are not rel="external", please let us know and I'll see to
remove them.
On 04/15/2012 02:36 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
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Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
Ok,
I'll coordinate with Daniel to get the dns for those subdomains pointing
at my server.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
On Wed, April 11, 2012 5:23 pm, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Redirecting paid things to your own server will
be the easiest and
fastest
solution to this if you are interested in having this done quickly.
HTH
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
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Subject: Re: [Consortium] Advertising Policy - linuxaudio.org
On Sun, April 8, 2012 3:29 am, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> On 04/07/2012 09:16 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
>> On 04/08/2012 01:38 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>> Easter Greetings to the list.
>>>
>>> I have been contacted by a reputable audio company who would
like to
>>> sponsor the "audio quality howto" by placing an advertisement on
the
>>> page
>>> for a one year period.
>>>
>>> http://lau.linuxaudio.org/audio_quality_howto.htm
>>>
>>> Do we have an advertising policy for Linuxaudio.org?
>>
>> why would anyone want to advertise on a page that has been
bitrotting
>> for 12 years?!
>>
> Bitrotting or not, the site is hosted by a land grant university for
> free which I believe (translation: I am 99.99% sure) means we cannot
> make money off the site unless we move to private hosting. I can
> double-check with the powers that be if anyone needs a 100%
confirmation
> on this one.
>
They have offered $50 for a one year placement. I'm still deciding if
that
is a fair amount.
I am happy to host paid content on my own server if we can redirect
the
DNS to that location. I suggest that all content under the "lau" and
"quicktoots" subdomains are hosted on my server.
That way we are able to have paid content and free (as in beer)
content so
we are Libre in the true sense of the word.
The next step will be to figure out a policy for advertising
placements,
how to deal with any income that is generated and how far we are
prepared
to go down that path.
Personally I would love to be able to pay people to contribute to LAO
and
if advertising in a respectful and tasteful way helps make that
possible
then I think it is a reasonable topic for discussion.
Cheers
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
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