20 Apr
2006
20 Apr
'06
12:20 a.m.
Hi,
I have recently had the task of updating my 2 year old system. It has
become obvious that there is no central location for all ladspa plugins
or even a package that installs all known plugins.
I am proposing that a new portal is created as part of the LAO web system.
I am also volunteering my time to create such a portal and to at least
instigate the packaging of all known plugins into a simple to install
tarball.
I already have access to at least part of the LAO website so this is
simply a message to get ideas or opinions for the new portal.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/ - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
"Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will
become reality" - Macka B
20 Apr
20 Apr
4:41 a.m.
Sounds like a fine idea. We could expand the domain to have also
ladspa.linuxaudio.org.
Any other ideas?
Ico
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Hi,
I have recently had the task of updating my 2 year old system. It has
become obvious that there is no central location for all ladspa plugins
or even a package that installs all known plugins.
I am proposing that a new portal is created as part of the LAO web system.
I am also volunteering my time to create such a portal and to at least
instigate the packaging of all known plugins into a simple to install
tarball.
I already have access to at least part of the LAO website so this is
simply a message to get ideas or opinions for the new portal.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/ - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
"Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will
become reality" - Macka B
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11:05 a.m.
Yery good idea, I've been wanting to do that for a long time, but I've
never had time.
- Steve
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:41:08 -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Sounds like a fine idea. We could expand the domain to
have also
ladspa.linuxaudio.org.
Any other ideas?
Ico
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bounces(a)lists.linuxaudio.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shirkey
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:19 PM
Cc: consortium(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Subject: [Consortium] ladspa repository
Hi,
I have recently had the task of updating my 2 year old system. It has
become obvious that there is no central location for all ladspa plugins
or even a package that installs all known plugins.
I am proposing that a new portal is created as part of the LAO web system.
I am also volunteering my time to create such a portal and to at least
instigate the packaging of all known plugins into a simple to install
tarball.
I already have access to at least part of the LAO website so this is
simply a message to get ideas or opinions for the new portal.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/ - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
"Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will
become reality" - Macka B
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12:47 p.m.
Hi Steve,
Yery good idea, I've been wanting to do that for a
long time, but I've
never had time.
I agree this is a good time to do it, but I suggest we make it
plugins.linuxaudio.org rather than ladspa.linuxaudio.org so we can
include DSSI plugins and any future formats under the same umbrella.
Also, I've been wondering recently about plugin classification and the
way that plugins are packaged by the various distros. I think there's
scope for some smaller packages that include the plugins a user would be
most likely to need, maybe separated out into effects and synth plugins.
For example, we currently include about 220 LADSPA plugins in 64 Studio,
but I don't think I ever use more than a dozen of those in my own
studio. Even then, some of the AMS demos don't work because we don't
have all the plugins they need.
Cheers!
Daniel
2:56 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 09:47:40 +0100, Daniel James wrote:
Hi Steve,
It's a tricky issue. It something that's actually easier on other
platforms where plugins tend to be distributed individually, or in small
groups. Doing that with source would be a right pain, and primarily
distribuing linux plugins as binaries seems a bit wierd.
I guess it would make sense for the distributions to do that though, but
I've no idea how you'd break them up.
- Steve
Yery good idea, I've been wanting to do that
for a long time, but I've
never had time.
I agree this is a good time to do it, but I suggest we make it
plugins.linuxaudio.org rather than ladspa.linuxaudio.org so we can
include DSSI plugins and any future formats under the same umbrella.
Also, I've been wondering recently about plugin classification and the
way that plugins are packaged by the various distros. I think there's
scope for some smaller packages that include the plugins a user would be
most likely to need, maybe separated out into effects and synth plugins.
For example, we currently include about 220 LADSPA plugins in 64 Studio,
but I don't think I ever use more than a dozen of those in my own
studio. Even then, some of the AMS demos don't work because we don't
have all the plugins they need.
8:26 p.m.
Hi Steve,
I just meant for the distros. I think Patrick's original suggestion of a
single place to get all the LADSPA plugin sources from makes sense, to
guard against individual sites disappearing.
For example, we
currently include about 220 LADSPA plugins in 64 Studio,
but I don't think I ever use more than a dozen of those in my own
studio. Even then, some of the AMS demos don't work because we don't
have all the plugins they need.
It's a tricky issue. It something that's actually easier on other
platforms where plugins tend to be distributed individually, or in small
groups. Doing that with source would be a right pain, and primarily
distribuing linux plugins as binaries seems a bit wierd. I've no idea how you'd break them up.
Maybe RDF could help here - a package of compressors, a package of
oscillators and so on. But you'd still end up with a lot of potentially
confusing options.
Perhaps the thing to do is run a poll to find out the twenty or so most
useful plugins in a particular context. So for example if you're
recording a rock band you're looking for a compressor, a limiter, a
reverb and so on, whereas if you are doing research into synthesis you
probably want a whole different set of plugins.
Anyway, I've put ladspa.linuxaudio.org into DNS for now. Should be
working in half an hour, then Ico can set up a root directory for it.
Cheers!
Daniel
11:10 p.m.
Daniel James wrote:
Anyway, I've put ladspa.linuxaudio.org into DNS for now. Should be
working in half an hour, then Ico can set up a root directory for it.
Ok, I'll start a new thread on LAD which can deal with the techy details
of the design for the portal.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://www.djcj.org/LAU/guide/ - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
"Anything your mind can see you can manifest physically, then it will
become reality" - Macka B
4:18 p.m.
I agree this is a good time to do it, but I suggest we
make it
plugins.linuxaudio.org rather than ladspa.linuxaudio.org so we can
include DSSI plugins and any future formats under the same umbrella.
I am not convinced that this is the best idea as we already have a precedent
(ladspavst.linuxaudio.org). I'd say that we actually need a combination:
ladspa.linuxaudio.org for what Patrick has suggested
dssi.linuxaudio.org for when we get the dssi page up
???.linuxaudio.org (am I missing any? -- it's too early in the morning and I
am too tired to think...)
And
plugins.linuxaudio.org as a portal which links to other pages and perhaps
provides some kind of brief comparison.
Ico
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