Marek Peteraj wrote: in case anyone reads this all over again to find out about the horrible verbal atrocities i committed, please s/david/daniel. (/me blushes) this is a figure of speech. it probably comes from the interesting habit of ancient kings to execute the bringers of bad news. what i meant to say is: daniel is trying to create a mechanism to deal with companies reluctant to deal with open-source developers. this open-source unfriendlyness is not his fault. he is only trying to deal with it. if this is an insult to you, the safest way is just ignore everything i say. -- The handles of a craftsman's tools bespeak an absolute simplicity, the plainest forms affording the greatest range of possibilities for the user's hand. That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. - William Gibson, "All Tomorrow's Parties" Jörn Nettingsmeier Kurfürstenstr 49, 45138 Essen, Germany http://spunk.dnsalias.org (my server) http://www.linuxaudiodev.org (Linux Audio Developers)