[LAD] Releasing source code is not enough, I think...

John Hammen jhammen at fastmail.fm
Tue Jan 21 20:42:35 UTC 2014

On 01/21/2014 12:23 PM, Filipe Coelho wrote:
> On 01/21/2014 07:10 PM, John Hammen wrote:
>>> Then they should wait until their distro or someone else provides
>>> > >a package. Or pay someone to do the work for them, just as they
>>> > >have to for commercial software, or for the mechanic you mention.
>> (...)
>> the idea being: a person whose paid responsibility it is to make us 
>> LAUs happy with fresh new packages and, ideally also work with folks 
>> upstream on build sanity issues. Filipe, would you be willing to 
>> supervise such a person, feed them the less fun parts of what you do 
>> and check their work?
> If the community is willing to pay for it, sure.
> But I find that a bit hard to believe...
> There's a difference on how KXStudio repositories are done vs regular 
> debian/ubuntu repos.
> Debian and Ubuntu usually build against a specific version, and don't 
> usually do backports.
> on KX repos I'm starting build all packages the same way (ie, the 
> generic linux builds), and update software very often (sometimes 
> minutes after release :D ).
> I hate when distros only package new stuff for the their newest, 
> unreleased/testing/upcoming version and completely ignore the users 
> running stable versions... :(

it appears my original message didn't make it to the list:

have to speak up as a LAU and general OSS user: the lack of proper 
packaging is certainly a bit hostile to the end user, but I also agree 
with this sentiment - it is not the responsibility of the original 
developer, that their responsibility ends with the sane build (i.e. 
ignore the non-technical user, alright, but do be kind to those willing 
to build!)

but it is simple fact that the packaging (and associated dependency 
checking, testing etc.) is painstaking work and not as much fun as the 
app development, that's why I'm so grateful to people like the Debian 
maintainers, and more locally folks like AutoStatic and Filipe yourself 
- I cannot blame you for wanting to see more help in that department.

I'm so grateful in fact that I would personally pay $25/month to pay 
someone to do this kind of work, I guess I should shut up now and just 
start subscribing to kxstudio, but I have to throw it out there: what 
about hiring somebody from odesk.com or the like?
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