[linux-audio-user] Re: [ardour-users] jack_fst and gcc4

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 23 October 2005 13:57, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 10/23/05, Dave Phillips <dlphillips at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> > Mark Knecht wrote:
> > >Dave,
> > >   I'm only here for a few minutes this evening. In the make file
> > >there seems to be more or less a a single invocation of winebuild that
> > >has 'debug' in it. Can we just remove it?
> > >
> > >   Since the option isn't supported, and wasn't in the man page, I
> > >don't know what Torben intended in it's use.
> > >
> > >   Anyway, part of this exercise, in my mind, is finding a solution
> > >that works AND is maintainable out into the future. I suspect that
> > >when we get past this we will see it as our first, small maintainance
> > >patch. What's important is that we don't go backward with old Wine,
> > >but always forward with new Wine.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Mark
> >
> > Hi Mark:
> >
> >   Unfortunately merely removing the --debug option doesn't resolve the
> > options problem. Winebuild now uses "modes" to define its actions, and
> > those modes are further defined by a set of options pertaining to that
> > mode. The problem now is that I can't figure out the right combination
> > of mode + option(s). The --dll mode requires a .spec or .def file that's
> > not present in the xfst package. The --exe mode requires no spec file,
> > but either it's not working as advertised or I'm still missing something
> > about it. One of those modes is supposed to be used when winebuild
> > creates a .c file.
>
> I wonder if I might find some help on one of theWine lists. I'll try
> there and let you know if I discover anything.
>
> >   Btw, this is wine-20050930, I think you're on the same version, yes ?
>
> Yes.
>
> > We should also be sure to test DSSI.
>
> What's DSSI? Answering self:
>
> http://dssi.sourceforge.net/
>
> >From a quick read, how does DSSI allow me to run commercial VST's? Not
>
> clear. Seems like something homegrown that competes.
>
> > As far as I can tell, the vstserver
> > project is dead, and the fst project is on a back-burner, so perhaps we
> > should concentrate on xfst and dss-vst with the latest WINE releases ?
>
> xfst & latest Wine - definitely yes. What's dss-vst? Google didn't
> tell me anything.

Hi Mark.
Theres a bit about it on the DSSI home page, that I accessed from DSSI on 
planetccrma audio software list.
>
> >   Also, I'm in the process of rewriting the VST+Linux tutorial, I'm
> > displacing the vstserver and fst material and putting up front new
> > material regarding my experience with xfst and DSSI. It should be
> > completed tomorrow (I'm not at my Demudi machine).
>
> Seems possibly a bit premature based on these results but I probably
> don't have a good view. Clearly the jack_fst stuff that's been there
> for the last year or more is probably no longer helpful to many. It
> seems like xfst and at least last months Wine is probably a better
> solution, but has it been tested with enough VST's to think it works
> well? Performance? xruns? All the messy stuff of real life? ;-)
>
> I certainly agree that any writing you do will be helpful.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark

Incidentally I'm following this thread with the greatest interest, as I've all 
about given up on wine running anything "I" want to run on it, and am looking 
forward to Dave's tutorial. Waiting in anticipation. Nigel.