Hello!
Terry Holton at Yamaha R&D in London suggested I contact you regarding
mLAN support on Linux. The Linuxaudio.org consortium has several members
interested in FireWire and audio networking, but since many of these
developers work for small specialist companies or in an academic
context, they are unsure about access to the mLAN specifications.
Is there some way in which we can work together to provide
specifications to these developers? I note that one of our recent new
member organisations, the FreeBob project, includes a developer who
works for BridgeCo - which is an mLAN licencee of course.
Please let me know your thoughts on the matter.
Cheers!
Daniel James
Hi Max,
> I'm the author of the GNUitar project www.gnuitar.com. Let's link
> exchange.
I'm afraid we don't have a links directory as such - are you on
linux-sound.org already?
Of course you would be welcome to join linuxaudio.org as a member -
please see the Policy page on our site. If you can agree to these terms,
please contact the new director, Ivica Ico Bukvic - his email is
ico(a)linuxaudio.org
Cheers
Daniel
Hello all,
Linuxaudio.org has gained three new members:
FreeBob
A project developing support for FireWire audio interfaces
Music Technology Laboratory
Part of the music department at the National University of Ireland, Maynooth
64 Studio
A Linux distribution for creative x86_64 users
(I should point out that the third one is my new start-up company).
This brings the total number of members to 23 projects, organisations
and companies.
As some of you will already know, after holding the voluntary post of
linuxaudio.org director for over a year, I have stepped down in order to
concentrate on my new company, and also to give someone else a chance to
represent the Linux audio community. The Management Board has approved
Ivica Ico Bukvic as the new director, after he volunteered for the role.
Cheers!
Daniel
Hi Daniel,
> > The representative of M-Audio was under the impression that 'the
> > guys from SuSE' were working with them on support for the
> > FireWire 410 product.
> Hehe, interesting. "The guys" mostlikely are we. But the FireWire
> 410 and 1810 from M-Audio are not BeBob based.
Maybe he was thinking of the ALSA project then - I haven't heard back
from them yet, but I'd guess they're busy getting ready for the
Karlsruhe conference.
> We might support
> them in future (if someone finds time to do so). But currently we
> are concentrating on the real BeBob based products.
I think (or hope) that we are moving into a new phase where
manufacturers are more actively involved in Linux support for their
audio products. So hopefully volunteer time won't be so much of a
constraining factor in future.
> If you want to ask about help, ask for a BeBob based firmware. That
> would be the best thing for all.
Exactly which format do you need this firmware in? Presumably you have
the binary already for the particular device you are testing on?
Wouldn't sample hardware on loan + firmware be better? I don't think
that's impossible to arrange. If it makes these companies feel more
comfortable about sending the hardware out, we could arrange for the
Freebob project to become a member of linuxaudio.org - you'd be most
welcome of course. (It doesn't cost anything to join).
> > Other companies that provided new contacts included Focusrite
> > (they now also make a FireWire interface), and the UK distributor
> > of RME products.
>
> The new Saphire is a BeBob based product.
Yes indeed, although it has other functions on top of the audio
interface, such as DSP effects. I'm guessing this will need some kind
of control application on top of the userspace driver.
> Which products on the markt are MLan based?
There is a list here:
http://www.mlancentral.com/mlan_info/current_prod.php
According to this page, the mLAN spec is royalty-free and there is a
BridgeCo chipset for it:
http://www.mlancentral.com/mlan_info/mlan_ppf.php
There are three kinds of mLAN licence:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/tech/1394mLAN/english/license.html
As far I can see, driver development for a 'control node' requires a
PTT (Patent, Technical information & Trademark) License.
This page says that among others, BridgeCo is a licensee:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/tech/1394mLAN/english/partners.html
Cheers!
Daniel
Hello all,
Linuxaudio.org enjoyed a very successful three days at the Sounds Expo
trade show in London last week. The organisation was represented by
Chris Cannam and Richard Bown of Fervent Software, Free Ekanayaka and
Tim Hall from AGNULA/DeMuDi and myself. Here's a summary of what
happened:
1. AMD sponsorship
Despite a considerable discount from the organisers of Sounds Expo
because we were running a not-for-profit stand, our participation was
only made possible due to generous and significant sponsorship from
AMD. Per Bahr from AMD joined us on the stand, where we gave out
promotional material featuring AMD's artist sponsorship programme and
the Opteron architecture, as well as pens, keyrings and so on. I
demonstrated a prototype of the '64 Studio' distribution running
natively on an Athlon 64 laptop, featuring JACK and Ardour.
2. Stand visitors
There was an obvious increase from last year in the number of stand
visitors who said they were already running Linux, if mostly for
non-audio tasks such as web development. For many of these users, the
questions were "why should I use a customised distribution?" and
"which applications do you reccomend?" rather than "what is Linux?".
However, there were still a great number of show visitors who had not
seen Linux before, even though most of them had heard of it.
3. Education
A number of stand visitors were from UK educational institutions who
were actively considering replacing Windows and Mac OS with Linux for
music and multimedia courses. These institutions need both software
and consultancy services, so if Linuxaudio.org members are interested
in following up with these contacts, please let me know.
4. FireWire support
Due to the immature state of FireWire audio interface support on
Linux, we paid special attention to this area when speaking to
exhibitors in other booths. We now have new contacts with Focusrite,
M-Audio, RME and Yamaha in order to follow this up. We also enquired
about the fine print of mLAN licensing, and whether there is a way we
can get control node specifications for Linux audio developers. If
members are interested in forming a specialist FireWire group within
Linuxaudio.org, please let me know.
5. Behringer
One of the most positive exhibitors regarding support for Linux
developers was Behringer, which has offered to help make sure that
Linux works well with its products - particularly its range of
control surfaces. These already work with Linux applications to a
certain extent, but the interaction could benefit from some polish.
If you need a contact within the company, please let me know.
6. Emission
This company makes a dedicated hardware controller for DJs:
http://www.emissionuk.com/prod_dac.asp
They are interested in getting Linux support for it, and we suggested
that they consider working with the developer community to
JACK-enable it, possibly based around the jackEQ software mixer. If
you are interested in this project, just let me know and I will put
you in touch with the company.
7. Embedded devices
There were several Linux-based products on other stands, with the Korg
Oasys perhaps the star of the show. Although these embedded systems
usually run a proprietary application on top of a Linux distribution,
they seem to be rasing the profile of Linux in the audio industry. I
believe instruments like the Oasys had a noticeable effect on the
other exhibitors at Sounds Expo, particularly on the issue of
hardware support for Linux.
8. Linux presentation
At short notice, I prepared and delivered a presentation in the Sound
on Sound theatre entitled 'Linux in the recording studio - myths and
realities". This covers the history of free and proprietary software,
leading up to a brief discussion and demonstration of Linux audio
applications. If anyone would like the slides or speaker notes from
this presentation for reuse, please ask.
Cheers!
Daniel James
Director
http://linuxaudio.org
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Hello ALSA team,
At the recent Sounds Expo in London, I took the opportunity to talk to
FireWire interface vendors, and also to Yamaha about MLan.
Regarding FireWire audio in general, the companies were much more
positive this year, actively talking about working with the Linux
audio community. I suspect this has a lot to do with a) an increase
in the level of customers asking about Linux and b) high-profile
manufacturers, such as Korg, adopting Linux for music devices which
will quite possibly have built-in FireWire support.
The representative of M-Audio was under the impression that 'the guys
from SuSE' were working with them on support for the FireWire 410
product. Is this indeed the case, or are you working under NDA
perhaps?
Other companies that provided new contacts included Focusrite (they
now also make a FireWire interface), and the UK distributor of RME
products. If we can help the ALSA project by passing on these
contacts, just let me know. (I also have a contact with Behringer
regarding support for their USB 2.0 interface and control surfaces).
On the subject of MLan, I was given a contact in the MLan licensing
department at Yamaha when I enquired if there was some way the
control node specification could be made available to linuxaudio.org
members. Last year at Sounds Expo, a representative of Yamaha gave
the opinion that developers could probably have the specs if they
asked for them, so it's about time we chased this up.
Cheers!
Daniel
hi guys!
a while ago we talked about setting up an audio/video relay network that
we can use for conferences and the like.
well, the network for lac2005 is getting into shape. if you want to
re-use it for some uk other other conference, please drop me a mail.
play with it here: http://lac2005.zkm.de:8000
and here: http://footils.org/cms/pydiddy/wiki/LinuxAudioConference2005
best,
jörn
Fervent Software will be attending Sounds Expo in London, UK
from 14th-16th April 2005. Sounds Expo is the UK's premier
music technology event and features seminars, demonstrations
and all of the latest happenings in the world of music related
gadgetry.
Fervent will be manning the Linux Audio stand and showing
delegates the benefits of this alternative platform and giving
demos of Rosegarden, Ardour, Hydrogen etc. and all the software
that's available on the Studio..to go! CD.
You can find more information about the event and register for
free at the Sounds Expo website:
http://www.sounds-expo.co.uk
Fervent look forward to seeing you there!
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>From: Josh Green <josh(a)resonance.org>
>
>> the better choice for distributing free giga collection could be done
>> done trough bittorrent files on the site.
[ ... ]
>- ed2k links for the edonkey network
>- All files compressed with CRAM (Compress hybRid Audio Media)
> http://swami.sourceforge.net/cram.php
"bittorrent", "ed2k" --- I hope that Internet Explorer can download
the "bittorrent" and "ed2k" files with IE's standard settings and
plugins. I cannot install anything to University's computers.
Please choose ftp or http for a fruitful start of the project!!
Are "bittorrent" and "ed2k" open source software/protocols? If not,
they should not be used. Cram? I cannot verify now but I hope it is
open source software. If not, we should use flac.
Napster, Kazaa, Gnutella, etc etc. I think there is now a bad
trend to worship transfer programs -- preferably executable
and unsecure programs -- instead of open protocols like ftp
and http. Bad, bad. What next? "Bitvirus", "Bitspy" -- to get
a file, users would have to install viruses to their computer.
And many would!
Juhana
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