[LAD] Kim did the switch to Linux

[Thomas Vecchione]

Sorry you got this twice Hermann, I am still used to the reply munging that
was gotten rid of some time ago.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:52 PM, hermann <brummer- at web.de> wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> Yes, I don't understand why people mean linux audio is a mess, last
> day's I have setup a new box with debian/sid and it took me a half day
> to get a full featured rt audio/midi environment on the run.


Its because, take for example OS X.... Hmm out of the box is capable of
pretty decent audio and midi for both professional and consumer
applications.  No custom kernel, no need to worry about Flash working while
you are running your pro-audio application.

It took you half a day, I could probably do it in a few hours at most.  But
I also have more than my fair share of knowledge on Linux administration and
specifically how to set up a realtime audio system for professional use.
Most people going into Linux do not know that, and that is why it is a
mess.  There are distributions out there, sadly probably the best known
being Ubuntu Studio, that by default out of the box do not provide an
experience anywhere close to being ready for low latency performance.  You
have to disable this sound system, and that sound system, and install Jack,
and then get Flash working with Jack(Iffy at best).

It isn't that Linux isn't capable of being used for professional audio, far
from it.  I did for a long period of time and the only reason I still don't
is because I had a motherboard blow on me and haven't had the money to
replace that machine.  It is because in order to get a basic experience of
decent performance for professional audio applications and still not cripple
most of the consumer applications out there, you have to dig into system
administration that most users are not willing or capable of doing.


> It's like
> always in life, if you wont to use a tool, you must know how it work's.
> There is no diff in this case to windos or mac.


Yes there is.  Mac I install and get going right then and there, no worry
about xruns because I don't have realtime preemption capable kernel, or I
don't have /etc/security/limits.conf correctly set up.

Look I am all in favor of LInux, but people need to realise how these things
affect newcomers to Linux as well, and if you can't see the reasoning behind
why people say these things, then there is other issues to sort out.

And before anyone says I am a Mac fanboi, please look me up some first, even
reading my earlier post in this thread.  I truly believe Linux is more
capable once it is set up for realtime audio than Mac or Windows(Or probably
many others, I just don't have experience with all of them).  But it is
getting to the point of having your system set up for that which is so
confusing for many users.

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