On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 5:19 PM John Rigg <jd(a)jrigg.co.uk> wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 03:44:07PM +0100, Kjetil Matheussen wrote:
  Clutterered or not, this functionality is
something
 pulseaudio/windows/osx all provide, but not jack. Is jack better
 because it doesn't provide this? No, it's worse. 
 No, it's decidedly better IMO. Complexity isn't always an improvement.
 
This should be considered an essential feature expected to be there.
Do you think the windows/pulseaudio/osx peple don't know what they are
doing? Do you think Fons' zita-mu1 program is not an improvement?
   Probably not.
You would need many many thousands of jack ports, or run
 some kind of tiny embedded device, for the memory usage to be of any
 size anyone would care about. 
 Memory usage isn't the only concern. There's also the additional
 processing time involved. 
 
Sorry, no there isn't.
In addition, you don't need it? Then don't use it, and don't get the
additional processing time. But even if you use it, the processing
overhead for this is absolutely nothing to care about.
   Most people
probably have no more than
 around 20 custom ports + sound card ports at any time. 
 In 14 years of jack use I've hardly ever used such a small
 number of ports. I'm probably not 'most people', but I'd
 expect a pro audio application to cater for typical
 multichannel recording and mixing as encountered in a
 professional studio. If you want to make it easier for
 more casual use fine, but please don't hobble it for more
 serious use.
 
 Why do you assume anyone is trying to hobble jack for "more serious use"?