Linux-audio-dev January 2003

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111 discussions

by Anthony

Hi, I've been playing a lot with bristol synth and really love it. So much so that I've been trying to 'Jackify' it. Actually, I'm pretty much done, but can't figure out the internal audio format. Its interleaved floats I think, but not normalised to [-1,1]. If any of the developers are here could you help me out? I can hear noise, but I need to tune the maths. TIA. --ant

21 years, 5 months

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

by Patrick Shirkey

>> That said, I think Patrick is right to start thinking about this now. Thanks. >I think he's completely right - I'm not sure about this bank account >thing but I do think that now is the time to be demoing, talking up and >generally approaching people and companies about Linux music software. >I wrote us up (and mentioned a few other apps) in the latest edition of >Linux User - John at mstation.org has been very kind so far as well. >Now is the right time to be talking to people and getting the >"products" out there. If it works - why not tell people about it? The reason I believe we need to have various bank accounts are because we cannot afford to waste money on excessive service charges and not everyone has access to credit cards. If we have the accounts in the right countries then people can just donate cash. From a professional perspective we need to show our prospective clients that we have sound financial thinking. It's mostly a subconscious need that consumers have. They want to know that the money they are investing is being given to people/companies/organisations who use it. Most people don't really care how it is used although we have the moral justification on our side too. This is from the Sound on Sound advertising package. "The main target market of Sound On Sound is the professional and semi-professional musician who is the kind of person that will have the spending ability to purchase a large range of products from synthesizers to samplers, mixing desks to microphones, multitracks to monitors, effects to expanders and computer hardware and software. They are not time wasters who do not know their profession - they are serious and mature individuals working with a reasonable budget." If we want to appeal to this audience we need to prove to them that they are investing in professional audio. We need to wine them and dine them (metaphorically). If they look into our commmunity and say these are just amateur geeks who have made some interesting things happen it won't work. If we take the intiative and lead them into our world they will come at it from the perspective that we are professionals who have created a very credible concept that we are proud of and want them to enjoy using. They will ask "What kind of cash have we invested" and if we come back with "Ahh, well we don't actually have a scope on the financial side of our open community." They are just going to look around for a while and leave. If we can show them that not only are we mathematics and logics wizards but that we also have solid business sense then they are going to stick around and see what we have to offer. A lot of them will probably invest just to test the waters or to keep up with the play. I want to see an advertising campaign happen that will educate and encourage the mass of potential user to take the step. I also want to make sure that we have covered our asses when they finally walk in through the doors. It's a choice between being amatuer enthusiasts or professionals. If we come across as professionals people won't give a toss about geekyness. -- Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd. For the discerning hardware connoisseur Http://www.boosthardware.com Http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide ======================================== "Um...symbol_get and symbol_put... They're kindof like does anyone remember like get_symbol and put_symbol I think we used to have..." - Rusty Russell in his talk on the module subsystem

21 years, 7 months

[linux-audio-dev] LAD Meeting at ZKM Karlsruhe 14-16 March 2003

by Dr. Matthias Nagorni

Hello, As announced earlier on this list, Frank Neumann and I are organizing a Conference of Linux Audio Developers at ZKM Karlsruhe. More information is available from http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/eventszkm2003.php3 The list of speakers and talks is now complete and the webpage of the event has been moved to ZKM: http://on1.zkm.de/zkm/stories/storyReader$3027 Information on accommodation has been added as well. In addition to the speakers, the following LADers have registered so far: Rene Bastian Joern Nettingsmeier Jean-Daniel Pauget Kai Vehmanen Several other LADers have shown interest but not yet registered. If you want to register for the conference, please provide the following information: 1) Hardware you will be bringing (if any) 2) How long will you stay ? 3) Email address to which we can send last minute information Remarks: 1) It is not necessary to bring any hardware, but if you do so, it would be important for us to know because we need to plan the rooms, network cabling, power supply etc. 2) In addition to the talks, there is room for LAD internal discussion especially on Saturday morning and Sunday. We assume that on Sunday this will last until about 18.00. Some LADers will be around already on Friday morning (some even on Thursday afternoon), however we might still be busy with preparations for the talks. A live audio stream of the talks will be available for those who can not attend the event. Matthias -- Dr. Matthias Nagorni SuSE GmbH Deutschherrnstr. 15-19 phone: +49 911 74053375 D - 90429 Nuernberg fax : +49 911 74053483

21 years, 9 months

Re: [linux-audio-dev] The future of XAP? (was: fruityloops on linux?)

by Tom

> The worst situation we can end up in if we go ahead with XAP is two > plugin APIs on Linux; XAP and a new, totally incompatible API. That's > still a lot better than the *current* situation on Windows and Mac > OS. Given the nature of vested interest, this is probably the best situation, not the worst. Don't wait. The only reason to delay is if you actually believe that a unified approach is not just possible, but probable. Closed developers might agree to a closed, members only, approach but a true unification would require either presently closed developers to abandon the idea of trade secrets, or open developers to abandon the gpl. Neither is likely. If you are into it, just go ahead. Tom

21 years, 10 months

RE: [linux-audio-dev] fruityloops on linux?

by Joachim Backhaus

> I´m not a programmer, but If I were, I´d try to do some > co-operation with > fruity-developers and do an linux-support to the fruityloops. > ´cause it´s > only the question of time&money. I don't think that they like to share the code with a developer and why should anyone port Fruity Loops to Linux without getting money, when Cakewalk sells his work later on? It would be better to write an open-source program from scratch. Regards, J.Backhaus

21 years, 10 months

[linux-audio-dev] Audio s/w ui swallowing

by Steve Harris

The world and his dog seems to be releasing macos/windows audio s/w that looks like 19" rack units. Anyone know enough about X to know if its possible to make X apps open thier main window inside a standard sized cabinet (ala Reason). I'm assuming it would be ok to require the app to be a certian size and have explicit support, but I guess it couldn't put any restrictions on toolkit. Other than looking cool, it would actually be a useful way to keep window clutter down. Not that we have any 19" lookalike apps yet, but I guess we will do at some point. - Steve

21 years, 10 months

e: [linux-audio-dev] The future of XAP? (was: fruityloops on linux?)

by k 1

>Given the time frames we're talking about here, and that XAP is almost >in alpha (if that term applies to APIs), I don't really think there's >more than one sensible choice here. Most of the thinking is already >done, and we *need* that API, yesterday. There's no point in stopping development but it would be good if someone from the MMA could figure out what their opinion is on Open Source. It seems like a huge division at the moment between what they are wanting to do and what is actually happening around here. Maybe we have to resign ourselves to yet another completely Open source solution that has no backing from the major businesses in our field. Ok, we keep slogging on and they keep (almost) ignoring us. Makes me feel even more uninterested in what they have to offer open source. Should I feel guilt for not being interested in the closed source providers if they are not interested in working with us? -- Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd. For the discerning hardware connoisseur Http://www.boosthardware.com Http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide ======================================== Being on stage with the band in front of crowds shouting, "Get off! No! We want normal music!", I think that was more like acting than anything I've ever done. Goldie, 8 Nov, 2002 The Scotsman _____________________________________________________________ Get your spam-free, Linux email now --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com Join Linux discussions --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you(a)yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag

21 years, 10 months

[linux-audio-dev] Karaoke software?

by Ingo Oeser

Hi there, I'm lurking around since some years here and try to follow your discussions here. Now I'm looking for karaoke systems in software for Linux. So sth. which shows the karaoke channels of VCDs and DVDs or real karaoke media. By showing I don't mean dumping it into a text file, but the way an karaoke system would show it. I also need some basic realtime equalizer and stuff to e.g. lower a female voice to allow singing songs made for male voices. But that is secondary. Is anything out there, which might help me? Thanks & Regards Ingo Oeser -- Science is what we can tell a computer. Art is everything else. --- D.E.Knuth

21 years, 10 months

[linux-audio-dev] when to implement controlC0/hwD0C0/mixerC0, and what for ?

by Marc Titinger

Hi All, I'm getting a bit confused about how mixers and special harware controls (like GPIOs) are implemented in ALSA(0.9.0) : What is the difference between /proc/asound/dev/controlC0 and /proc/asound/dev/mixerC0 ? My card (ens1371) does not feature a mixerC0 device, does a call to snd_mixer_open(..) require a such device to exist? Basically, what for should I open the controlC0 device ? (mixer settings, power management ? )and do I need to implement a mixerCx device ? Should controlC0 be used for lowlevel settings global to the board, while hwC?D? would be for proprietary hardware control on a given IO ? Thanks, Marc.

21 years, 10 months

[linux-audio-dev] [OT] the small size of the audio marketplace

by Paul Davis

in a second confirmation (post steinberg) of the tiny size of the audio marketplace: Under the proposed transaction, Sun Capital would acquire approximately 9.8 million shares of Mackie common stock, or approximately 65% of Mackie's total common stock outstanding, through the purchase of approximately 7.4 million outstanding shares from certain selling shareholders and approximately 2.4 million newly issued shares for a total of approximately $10 million in cash. that puts their valuation of Mackie at about $15.4M. i know that Mackie is a niche player, not working at the same level as, say, Gibson or Fender, but they are one of the preeminent trade mixer makers and they also make some damn cool products. !! *products* !! hardware! marketing! people! customers! reputation! all this could have been yours for a few million :) of course, there is an interesting question: who are the sellers of those 7.4 million shares (some 49% of all existing shares)? they appear to be basically dumping somewhere between half and all their existing holdings in Mackie. that's quite a sell off. --p

21 years, 10 months

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Linux-audio-dev January 2003