hi everybody!
just a passing remark: it is very easy to filter out a troll. it is
however close to impossible to filter responses to trolling by people
whose mail i appreciate in general.
best,
jörn
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
> Robert Keller wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Grammostola Rosea wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Keller wrote:
>>>> I fixed it to v2. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> We don't post on top. Quote the relevant part and place your message
>>> below, because of our mail archive ;)
>>
>> Sorry, it was something that gmail seems to encourage, and I didn't
>> realize about the archive.
>>
>>>
>>> About the licenses. I think Impro-visor should have the same license of
>>> the GPL source you use (Jmusic or something(?)).
>>>
>>> About setting up a mailinglist, one for users one for developers,
>>> that's
>>> pretty easy.
>>>
>>> I think this should help you:
>>>
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> \r
>>
>>
>> A question: On sourceForge, I see how to commit to svn.
>>
>> But how to post files, such as a zip distribution, on the Files page?
>> My Files section is empty, but I'd like to put something there.
>>
>
Bob,
You better do 'reply to all'. So more people can give suggestions. I'm
not very experienced in that sort of stuff (yet).
Regards,
\r
Robert Keller wrote:
> I fixed it to v2. Thanks!
>
> Bob
Bob,
We don't post on top. Quote the relevant part and place your message
below, because of our mail archive ;)
About the licenses. I think Impro-visor should have the same license of
the GPL source you use (Jmusic or something(?)).
About setting up a mailinglist, one for users one for developers, that's
pretty easy.
I think this should help you:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo
Regards,
\r
Hi everyone!
I just compiled flac version 1.2.1 on my Linux Debian system. I got an error
in
examples/cpp/encode/file/main.cpp line 75
memcmp not declared in this scope.
I found out why: The file needs to include string.h or cstring. It doesn't,
at least not directly. I put it in and everything was alright. Thought I'd
just report it, so it might be fixed...
Kindest regards
Julien
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: alex stone <compose59(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LAD] Fw: Re: At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond
To: Arnold Krille <arnold(a)arnoldarts.de>
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Arnold Krille<arnold(a)arnoldarts.de> wrote:
......... And while Fons surely has his own way of "extreme reactions"
I never found him to be that impolite and
> insulting.
>
> Have fun,
>
> Arnold
Neither have I. If Fons sets out to insult me, he does so with the
thoroughly literate grace and style of an insulter with class. I'd
expect nothing less.
The disreputable miscreant prone to a withering turn of caustic phrase
we know as Dave Robilliard, on the other hand........
:)
Just kidding.
Arnold, we're gonna need more popcorn.....
P.S Nice work on Jackmix. Works a treat here from a recent ebuild.
Might not be that pretty, but it goes like a train...
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Aaaah, something we can BOTH look forward to..
:)
And we thought collaboration was a dying art.............!
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Fons Adriaensen<fons(a)kokkinizita.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:03:53PM +0400, alex stone wrote:
>
>> Neither have I. If Fons sets out to insult me, he does so with the
>> thoroughly literate grace and style of an insulter with class. I'd
>> expect nothing less.
>
> I'll keep you high expectations in mind :-). But I don't
> remember ever having had the pleasure to insult you...
>
> Saluti from hot Parma,
>
> --
> FA
>
> Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
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While I'd normally respect the private nature of any
message, this one goes well above any reasonable limit
so I do feel free to quote it:
----- Forwarded message from laseray(a)gmail.com -----
From: laseray(a)gmail.com
To: Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)kokkinizita.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:29:23 -0400
On Monday 27 July 2009 16:11:54 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 08:33:30PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> > welcome to the linux audio developers' community, thanks for joining
> > this list.
>
> (and lots more)
>
> While being away to have dinner at some nice place in the Italian
> countryside I've been musing about writing to prof. Keller.
>
> No need to do so as Joern has basically said everything I'd wanted
> to say. But I want to repeat his welcome, and would want to reassure
> Bob that most of us are considerably less corrosive and rude than
> the one member he's had to deal with up to now.
>
> Kind regards from hot Parma,
Hey, go fuck yourself. Is that corrosive enough for you?
You should keep your mouth shut when you do not understand things.
You rude insulting bastard.
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Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
Am Dienstag, den 28.07.2009, 11:22 +0200 schrieb hollunder(a)gmx.at:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:38:23 +0200
> hermann <brummer-(a)web.de> wrote:
>
> > Am Montag, den 27.07.2009, 16:08 +0200 schrieb hollunder(a)gmx.at:
> > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:14:16 +0200
> > > hermann <brummer-(a)web.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > guitarix is a simple Linux Rock Guitar amplifier and is designed
> > > > to achieve nice thrash/metal/rock/blues guitar sounds.
> > > > Guitarix uses the Jack Audio Connection Kit as its audio backend
> > > > and brings in one input and two output ports to the jack graph.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Release 0.05.0-1 comes with some major changes:
> > > >
> > > > * Completely new source structure by James
> > > > * add keyboard shortcuts
> > > > * improved skin handling
> > > > * add logging window
> > > > * improved preset handling
> > > > * add middle tone control
> > > > * reworked audio engine
> > > > * add bypass mode
> > > > * add engine state widget
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please read the README for more details regarding the new options.
> > > >
> > > > have fun
> > > > ________________________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > The standalone version of guitarix is based on GTK2+.
> > > > But guitarix is also released as a suite of LADSPA plugins
> > > > and can be used in e.g. ardour.
> > > > guitarix is licensed under the GPL.
> > > >
> > > > Project page with screenshots:
> > > > http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/
> > > >
> > > > download:
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/guitarix/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For capture, guitarix uses the external application
> > > > 'jack_capture' (version >= 0.9.30) written by Kjetil
> > > > S. Matheussen. If you don't have it installed,
> > > > you can look here:
> > > >
> > > > http://old.notam02.no/arkiv/src/?M=D
> > > >
> > > > For extra Impulse Responses, guitarix uses the
> > > > convolution application 'jconv' created by Fons Adriaensen.
> > > > If you don't have it installed, you can look here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/index.html
> > > >
> > > > I(hermann) use faust to build the prototype and will say
> > > > thanks to
> > > >
> > > > : Julius Smith
> > > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/realsimple/faust/
> > > >
> > > > : Albert Graef
> > > > http://www.musikwissenschaft.uni-mainz.de/~ag/ag.html
> > > >
> > > > : Yann Orlary
> > > > http://faust.grame.fr/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > guitarix-dev team: Hermann Meyer & James Warden
> > >
> > > Thanks, it's great, I just plunked some bass through it and it's a
> > > lot of fun. Arch User Repository is updated.
> > >
> > > Some things I noticed:
> > > 1) The default connections, especially with the meterbridge enabled,
> > > seem weird to me.
> > > 2) Nice new website, I really like that sunburst theme, but on the
> > > website it's a jpg which shows lots of aliasing, maybe a png
> > > or something would be better?
> > > 3) Everything's quite small on my screen, I can hardly read some of
> > > the things, like 'resonanz' and 'vibrato'.
> > >
> > > Anyway, it's lots of fun :)
> > > Regards,
> > > Philipp
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Hi Philipp
> >
> > Thanks for making the arch build script to guitarix.
> >
> > to 1.) do you mean the default settings ? Then I must say yes, we have
> > completely forget to adjust them to the new effects and amp
> > simulation's, so indeed they are (bad) useless.
>
> I mean something else:
> When you open the meterbridge guitarix makes automatic jack connections.
> From first guitarix out to second meterbridge in.
> From first meterbridge out to guitarix in.
> I don't understand the purpose of that connection.
>
>
> > to 2. ) thanks for the hint, yup have update it to png.
> >
> > to 3. ) do you think it's to small, or is it just the font colour with
> > the sunburst skin ? May we rework the font colour so that we could set
> > it with the gtkrc file also, in the moment it's hardcoded (pango).
> >
> > regards hermann
>
> I think it's too small, those two things are even smaller than the
> rest, which is already small. The fonts in the oscilloscope are also
> very small.
>
> Regards,
> Philipp
the meterbridge is to show the diff between in and output.
guitarix is a monoamp, so there is no diff between the two output
channels, except you move the balance slider, so one channel monitoring
is enough, I think. For easy useage we decide to start it connected
already.
Also the oscilloscope show only the right output channel.
To the font size, yea, I try to make it as small as possible, that's
true, may I go a little to small with it. I wont to save space in the
GUI for future includes. resonanz and vibrato, I make smaller because
the arrangement of the controllers.
So, okay, it's to small, we will rework it for a better view,
thanks for your feedback,
hermann
Before I shut down the computer a last note.
Bob is willing to open the source code, because Raymond did what Raymond
did.
It's fine to welcome Bob, he changed his mind and this is good. Neither
Bob nor Raymond are wrong, it's not fair to blame Raymond.
From my point of view the community should thank Raymond, because he
pointed out a problem and indeed the community also should welcome Bob.
:)
Dear linux-aud-dev list,
Here is a little bit of history on the Impro-Visor project (http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~keller/jazz/improvisor/
).
It was initiated in 2005 as a learning tool for jazz musicians, not as
FLOSS. It used an early version of jMusic, which was GPL, so it became
GPL. jMusic is only a tiny part of the logic that is involved.
Heretofore included with the executable, in the 'About' dialog, was an
email address for questions, which I always thought would include
questions about how to get the source, although it did not say that
explicitly.
In considering how to distribute and support the software, I set up a
Yahoo! group wherein I provided downloads to the members (http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/impro-visor/
). This is because I didn't want to reinvent various distributions
wheels and saw this as an easy way. The members of this group are
generally musicians, but not computing sophisticates. Some have
trouble figuring out how to unzip the distribution, or run a jar file,
for example. They wouldn't know what to do with sourceForge, at least
as it was back then. So I figured that posting directly source in the
group itself would just create confusion. The only official
distribution of Impro-Visor has been through this group.
A year or so ago I received an email from Raymond asking where the
source was. I think that I provided a download for him, and eventually
I posted the zipped source and kept it in sync with the revisions. I
then got a suggestion or two from Raymond, which I decided not to
accept, for reasons that I had then. Please understand that I am not a
GPL expert, just trying to 'get along'. However, I don't feel that I
am obligated to accept every suggestion that someone makes about
software that is my own. I had not heard from Raymond since then (a
year ago).
Recently I posted to the impro-visor Yahoo! group a preview version of
a new version of Impro-Visor, which included installers and launchers
for the various java platforms (created using a trial version of
install4j). I realized shortly after that there were some problems
with some of the new features, so the preview was flawed. I was in a
hurry to get my plane to a conference where I was presenting work
involving Impro-Visor. I did not want to post source to a flawed
version. However, the GPL as I understand it allows one to obtain the
source by request, rather than having it posted side-by-side. I did
not have net access for several days, which were reserved for a short
vacation with my spouse. When I did get access, it was rather limited
and I could only use gmail. I received a message from Raymond asking
why the source was not posted. I indicated that did not really have
time to do a proper posting of the source. For example, I understand
that I am supposed to provide a compilation script, but I did not know
enough about configuring ant to include build.xml which would include
it in the zip. I still have to address that issue. So upon receiving
Raymond's message, I immediately removed all of the distributions so
there would not be further cause for complaint. The preview was thus
up for 3-4 days. This was followed by additional messages from Raymond
accusing me of intentional violations and making attacks on my
personality.
Meanwhile, the activities of Raymond Martin, trying to force my hand
on how I distribute the sources, are very counterproductive. By making
me 'put out fires', it is taking away hours that could be used to
produce a proper initial repository. I have contacted sourceForge
about his posting of sources relating to the project, and they
suggested filing a copyright infringement (the project is copyright by
me and Harvey Mudd College).
I really am trying to be a good citizen, and you'll have to excuse me
for not knowing the ways of your community, which was not the primary
one intended to be served by this project. While I am quite willing to
cooperate, I feel that I am being asked to react too quickly. As I
told Raymond, I need a little space here. As you can see from the tone
of his messages, he thinks I have to do what I say, immediately, or he
takes over. It kind of feels like a lynch mob, which I don't feel I
deserve, because a lot of the thinking that went into the project is
that of me and my students. I also don't feel that I should have to
disrupt my vacation and conference in Europe to address his whims.
The project will require TLC to maintain, even by someone knowledgable
of its structure, because it contains a lot of music theory. By
forcing things in Raymond's way, progress is being prevented.
I can assure you that I and my students have expended an extraordinary
amount (100's of person-months) of effort in just making this project
work. Please be fair to us.
Thanks for understanding.
Sincerely,
Bob Keller
Robert Keller
Csilla & Walt Foley Professor
Computer Science
Harvey Mudd College
