Linux-audio-dev August 2009

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by victor

Hi everyone, changing a bit of the subject in this list, is anyone here going to the ICMC? I'll be in Montreal for a week from 17/08, it'll be nice to meet some of you there. Regards Victor

16 years, 5 months

[LAD] dbus using up resources

by Patrick Shirkey

Hi, A recent observation has been made of the jack + pulse audio union that it uses up a lot of resources when running. It's not the first report that running pulse + jack causes things to overheat and lockup. The report was posted to the jack-devel list a couple of days ago. According to the original poster it is hald and dbus which are taking on the extra load. To me this sounds like an implementation bug in the jack or pulse code as neither hald or dbus should consume extra resources beyond their standard footprint. Does anyone have an idea of why this could be happening? It's probably a very simple oversight somewhere. I'm gonna spend some time now to test my system and see if I can reproduce it. Cheers. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

16 years, 5 months

[LAD] Impro-Visor packages now on SF

by laseray＠gmail.com

Hi, After numerous back and forth emails with the Impro-Visor guy I realized there was no way to get through to him. This was even after a number of people on the Yahoo group for the program sided with him and I set them straight on the facts. Each one of them changed their position, but this guy would not despite any statement of facts, evidence, etc. So no point in trying to reason with unreasonable people. Thus, I have started a SourceForge project to host Impro-Visor stuff (yes, with the source code) and possibly a new line of development on a fork. Right now it is just important to make the binaries/code easily available for everyone (as guaranteed by the GPL). Only the last stable version is up at the moment (version 3.39). If anybody wants to join the project feel free, even people from the original project are welcome because this is about opening it up, not taking it over (which is sort of a slam I received from that guy when I let him know that the application binaries/source would be hosted on another project). I wanted to cooperate with people, but it was just too difficult for them to admit being wrong. So instead of just posting the source code for their latest preview, it was pulled. In spite of all their protests that they were completely in the right, the application was removed. Basically, an admittance that the GPL was being violated. Anyway, I still have that preview and the source code (via disassembler) and can possibly still put that up a little bit later. Raymond Improvisor: http://sourceforge.net/projects/improvisor

16 years, 5 months

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Kim did the switch to Linux

by Thomas Vecchione

Just realised this needed to go to both lists... bah. Seablade On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Thomas Vecchione <seablaede(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:19 AM, James Stone <jamesmstone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Mac fanboi backlash is by turns amusing and irritating but >> always unsurprising. >> > > I wonder if I fall into this category nowadays? > > I guess its a bit funny if I do;) > > > Linux audio is a total mess... a normal human being can't work with pro >> > audio on Linux, unless he/she spent hours and hours to learn the little >> > tricks or he has an expert available who helps him... >> >> What is the purpose of telling this mailing list this? >> > > Preaching to the choir in most cases I suspect;) > > > then get off this list and leave us to our playthings. or better yet, > spend time critiquing the current state of the "out of the box" > experience with the people who **actually provide** the out of the > box experience. > > Well technically this list did, not to long ago, scare away someone that > was impactful in those sorts of decisions;) > > > Control what? The source code of an application? Or the kernel? I have very >> limited skills in programming languages - I'm just an old school music >> artist and multimedia designer. On OS X I have full control over my personal >> creative workflow. But Linux was controlling me in a way that I have to take >> care of lot admin tasks and bugs. Yes the bugs and workarounds on Linux >> controlling me and I'm to stupid to fix them all plus write my dream apps. >> I'm one of the guys, going into a music store and buy a guitar and not one >> of the guy who'd like to build a own. My handcraft is music, not wood. >> > > Control your workflow. I am on OS X now for most of my work, however I > can't set up the same workflow I could on Linux, and what I can do is not > nearly as easy or quick on OS X. I could control my desktop and > applications much smoother and faster with some simple customizations on > Linux than I ever could on OS X. I could tweak the visual aspects much more > easily to that I was happier looking at my screen(Yes I do have a soft spot > for eyecandy, and OS X doesn't come close to filling it). > > Seablade >

16 years, 5 months

[LAD] 11th Real-Time Linux Workshop, September 28 to 30, Dresden, Germany

by Jörn Nettingsmeier

way over my head, but it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling if some hotshot linux audio people were attending: http://www.osadl.org/RTLWS-2009.rtlws-2009.0.html best, jörn

16 years, 5 months

[LAD] Email from Beat Kangz

by Michael Fisher

For what its worth... I received this from AJ at Beat Kangz. Could have just been an honest mistake really. I still have mixed emotions. --- *Hey Guys* * * *I have personaly contacted the creators of the LADSP plug ins we used and let them know our plans etc. In a rush to get the product out the door we forgot to include those credits. Which is now corrected on everyone that goes out the door. If you notice we didnt include the manual either lol. We are finishing that today and will be posting it as well as emailing it to all our customers so far. It will also include the list of credits. We regret not having it in the initial release and we have corrected that. in addition we will send them free copies etc.* * * *"That would be pretty awesome if they decided to open development"* This is exactly why we chose to go with LADSPA instead of VST. We want to shine a big spotlight on that dev community and also Donate funds to further help them create cool plug ins. We would even love to create a dedicated page on our site where they can sell or give away their creations and benefit from our marketing efforts. The more plugins the better for all of us! We are also now looking for talented programmers to write cool synths we can use too...... If you guys know who can do that, send them my way. We appreciate your biz Michael and hope you enjoy the product. Ronald I also appreciate your call today and hope we can find ways to work on projects together in the future. Give me some time to get this Thang off the ground and by 2010 i may be able get you those angels you are looking for. Peace and Respect AJA Prez of tha kangz

16 years, 5 months

[LAD] Impro-visor source code and fork

by laseray＠gmail.com

Hi all, If anybody is interested, I have decompiled the latest Impro-visor version, which has only been provide as a binary (in contradiction to the terms of the GPL). So if you want the source code just let me know and I will send it. I'm sure it won't compile immediately, since there are a number of incorrect constructs returned by the decompilation. I will work on this in the next while to have it compile. I think someone else mentioned they posted the older binary/source somewhere. Perhaps this can be hosted at the same location (have to look back to see where that is/who posted). Apart from that, I will be looking into forking Impro-visor in the next few days. After making contact with the responsible parties about the GPL violations, I have received no reply and the source code has not been posted along with the binaries as is legally required. I also contacted the department head at the institution responsible for this work to see if they would look into the matter. Perhaps they can sort this out in the next little while. Failing that, I will probably start a new project on SourceForge and be looking to put together a development team. Contributions to the software by users will also be welcome. There will be a need for new leadsheets, transcriptions, documentation, and even translations of the user interface. Cheer, Raymond

16 years, 5 months

[LAD] GPL Violation Alert! - I talked with the President of Beat Kangz Today

by Ronald Stewart

GPL Violation Alert! - I talked with the President of Beat Kangz today his name is A.J. and he is a sweetheart and his head is on straight. He is currently going to work on an official statement and he wants to embrace and thank the developers and give the authors credit on their software and materials moving forward. Additionally, Beat Kangz is interested in opening up development with authors to make Beat Kangz even better including funding open source development and projects. I think the hiccup is that they didn't know how to properly thank/engage in regards to GPL and such. It's sounds like more of a noob thing and definitely not a jerk thing. Let's give these guys the benefit of the doubt because their heads are on stragiht. Stay tuned. Much Love. Thank you Ronald Stewart Creative Director Trinity Audio Group Inc. 9854 National Blvd. #322 Los Angeles CA 90034 310-733-9285 ronaldjstewart(a)gmail.com www.indamixx.com

16 years, 5 months

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Python and MIDI orientation for a project

by Dominic Sacré

On Monday 03 of August 2009 23:06:34 harryhaaren(a)gmail.com wrote: > And on the topic for a second, python bindings exist for MidiDings, a > module that can use both AlsaSeq & Jack Midi. > I have a very limited amound of experince with it, as i found the > AlsaSeq python package to be much simpler to use. Just to clarify, mididings is primarily intended as a standalone MIDI processor. Usually its sole input/output is MIDI, and it just happens to use Python for its configuration. It's not really a MIDI API to be used in larger Python programs, and I'm pretty sure it completely sucks for that purpose. Now... who's going to finally write proper Python bindings for JACK MIDI? :) Dominic

16 years, 5 months

Re: [LAD] Python and MIDI orientation for a project

by Carlos Sanchiavedraz

Hi Harry. It's curious... you got the point I had in mind :) My main idea is to extend the configuration dialog so that, same as you can map wiimote keys/events to keyboard keys, you could map wiimote keys/events to CCs helped by a select box with a list of available CCs; first maybe a usefull and comprehensive subset and then the whole set in later versions. Maybe we can add the "advanced" section as well. But first I'm trying to get information about the other topics on my list :) Thanks Harry. //On my mobile device. Sorry for top-posting and any mistakes 2009/8/2, Harry Van Haaren <harryhaaren(a)gmail.com>: > Hey Carlos, > > Python & the wiimote is a nice combo, i've played with it and midi a little > too.. > Not at all familiar with desktop applet coding, so ill leave that to the > pro's! > > As far as the "what midi CC bindings" are useful, could you put in a > "Drop-down-box" or "Entry-Box" > for the CC's? Because there will always be some use for it. Perhaps have an > "Advanced" section, in > which one can manually type the CC Numbers, and have the "Simple" section > up > with a drop down of > the most common CC's? > > Becuase I can really see the use of having a wiiMote around for debugging > audio/midi progams with you applet. > It would mean you could easily send any Midi CC's to a program using an > "Easy-Access" unit. (IE: pick it up, use it, > not like a keyboard where you'd spend time mapping a key to a different > MIDI > CC etc) > > Hope the project goes well for you, once im home ill check how much is done > and where to get the Alpha release.. ;-) > -Harry > > > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz > <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> I have notice I forgot to send this mail to LAD as well. Sorry :) >> >> Here it is. >> Of course, thanks in advance. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Carlos Sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> >> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:18:17 +0200 >> Subject: Python and MIDI orientation for a project >> To: linux-audio-user <Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org> >> >> Hi folks. >> >> I'm cooperating with a friend and fellow to improve his project >> related to wiimote. >> >> The project is Wiican[1]. In short, it is a tool (a system tray icon >> actually) that makes it easier to connect the wiimote and configure >> and create key mappings for use at your will. It's written in python >> and uses bluez, hal with dbus, wminput and cwiid. >> >> My goal is to add some layer in such a way that you can map wiimote >> events to MIDI. And maybe, to include it on the next improved release >> of Musix. >> >> So, in adittion to my researches on the subject and what I already >> know about MIDI CCs and so, I would like some advice and guidance >> about how to: >> - implement MIDI in python (which CCs are a must for you, create and >> send MIDI messages, libs, bindings, reference projects), >> - implement Jack and Alsa MIDI ports in python (libs, bindings, >> reference projects), >> >> ... and every other interesting information or experiences on this. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> [1] https://launchpad.net/wiican >> >> >> -- >> Carlos "Sanchiavedraz" >> * Musix GNU+Linux >> http://www.musix.es >> >> >> >> -- >> Carlos "Sanchiavedraz" >> * Musix GNU+Linux >> http://www.musix.es >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user >> > -- Carlos "Sanchiavedraz" * Musix GNU+Linux http://www.musix.es

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Linux-audio-dev August 2009