Linux-audio-dev August 2014

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by Tim E. Real

On August 15, 2014 05:24:51 PM Len Ovens wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Paul Davis wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Len Ovens <len(a)ovenwerks.net> wrote: > > Is it just me? Has anyone else looked at pitch bend events on the > > Ardour MIDI Tracer? Quick test: > > > > ================================================ > > - edit->Preferences->Control surfaces. > > - select both enabled and feedback for generic MIDI. > > - double click on it and select bcf2000 with mackie protocol > > - open an external midi monitor (using qmidiroute here) and connect > > it to > > Ardours MIDI control out. > > - also open Ardours MIDI tracer window and connect it to the same > > output. > > (Now qmidiroute will be in decimal and MIDI Tracer is hex..) > > - use the mouse to move the gain up and down on channel one with an > > audio track. > > ================================================= > > > > the trace shows MIDI messages. there are no 10 or 14 bit MIDI messages. > > only "controllers" with 14 bit state. 14 bit state is sent as two > > messages (when necessary). the tracer shows each individual message. > > Pitch bend, which the mackie faders use, is specified in the MIDI standard > and in the MCP spec as: Ex yy zz in one event. Correct. Pitch bend is the only truly 14-bit encapsulated message. There is also one more, real time Song Position Pointer (F2, LSB, MSB). I think it is 12-bit though. One can use the pitch wheel for something other than pitch. It is per-channel. You can have up to 16 14-bit pitch wheels (or knobs/sliders/etc), per interface, each routed to whatever you want. You would just have to reserve some channels, or even a whole interface. Yay Mackie! And others doing this. But do I wish MIDI had included at least one /more/ encapsulated 14-bit message per channel. > WHere x = channel, yy = LSB > (7 bits) and zz = MSB (7 bits). This is one event. This the way I send > fader info to Ardour and It is also the way Ardour sends info back to me > when I use a mouse to move a fader. Lets compare the output of the tracer > with qmidiroute: (using fader5 as happens) > > tracer db qmidiroute midi > =========================================================================== > Pitch Bend chn 5 1a -0.5 Ch 5, Pitch 4378 (111a) e4 1a 42 > crt/alt/mousewheel down > Pitch Bend chn 5 09 -0.5 Ch 5, Pitch 4361 (1109) e4 09 42 > Pitch Bend chn 5 79 -0.5 Ch 5, Pitch 4345 (10f9) e4 79 41 > There is no second midi event with the msb, this info is missing. > > I am well aware that controllers are 7 bits in an event. The MIDI standard > does double up some of them for 14 bit, I think you are referring to what I will call "14-bit aggregate 7-bit controllers", as opposed to "14-bit (N)RPN controllers". > but I am not aware of anyone who > uses them. In my searches for products/software that use them I have seen a few. Good to plan for it anyway. I think ALSA can use it too - I think it is one of the event types. > > Speaking of which... I was looking at the MIDI codes for some more upscale > Control surfaces: > Allen & Heath iLive control surfaces > Yamaha CL series mixers > > Both of these use NRPN (Non-Registered Parameter Number) for some of their > messages. The A&H uses this because they have run out of controllers (I > would guess) and still only get 7 bits for their faders. They use three > events, the first one has the mixer channel (as well as the midi channel), > the second has a code for what in the channel it controls (0x17 for fader) > and the third is the data. Wow, so they just ate up 16,384 available 7-bit NRPN controllers. That's an entire interface full. Any 14-bit controllers at all on these AH models? If so, do they have detailed info on exactly how it is sent, and options? If not, do you have a way of reading what comes out of them (and when)? NOT with ALSA sequencer or any of the 'snooper' apps I've seen. It must be either a true UART HW project or a low-level API for reading the MIDI data. Does anyone out there know of a *true* sniffer application that handles all 7-bit and 14-bit controller types and displays them conveniently and correctly? > Yamaha uses four events, the first two carrying > the controller number (they have not bothered to group them the way A&H > has) and the last two are MSB and then LSB. The wiki for NRPN says the > controller number for the first two bytes should be 0x63 and 0x62, > however, Yamaha has these listed backwards. As there are other typos in > the same page, this may just be a typo too. These are 14-bit NRPN controllers. > I do not know if the Ardour midimap binding msg="byte byte byte" would > handle this or not. I know Jack would consider this 4 events and probably > not accept just the first status byte with 8 running status data bytes > following as a single event. I think Jack does not care. It simply passes on whatever bytes it receives. This is a blessing for me actually. I have to make my own encoder/decoder (this converts raw 7-bit midi to/from MusE controllers) but at least *I* control what goes on inside there. (I'd like to take this opportunity for a bit of an update): It's been a year since I reported how I was attempting to finish adding true, full 14-bit midi controller support to MusE (that's 7-bit controllers, 14-bit aggregate 7-bit controllers, 7 bit RPN and NRPN controllers, and 14-bit RPN and NRPN controllers). I said I found that ALSA sequencer API doesn't handle 7-bit RPN. And wouldn'tcha know it, my keyboard sends only 7-bit. As I say, it means I have to make my own encoder/decoder. I think possibly the ALSA RAW API is what I want. But MusE uses the ALSA sequencer API, big job to switch to RAW. Fortunately MusE also uses Jack Midi. I said that I /could/ have taken Jack's raw midi data and fed it to/from an ALSA encoder/decoder - but again, no 7-bit RPN. So it's /all/ home-brew for me! Workin' on C++ classes all these months. My efforts are moving along, but slowly. I'm trying to make it a library 'cause it seems useful for other apps, but right now some of it very specific to MusE. Trust me, robust controller support needs some fairly 'acrobatic' code, and user options concerning formatting. Example: I read where one company manufactured a whole line of small embedded midi board products. Only to have a user point out that they didn't do 7-bit RPN conventionally (they used the LOWER 7 bits of data), but the company owner said there was nothing he could do until next designs and he actually argued vigorously that his way was correct (well, he is right but the almost universal convention is the other way - the UPPER 7 bits). See what I mean? I scoured the 'net for product docs and found wide variations in implementations, even though they are all 'correct'. Cheers. Greetings Len. Tim.

11 years

Optimisations

by Will Godfrey

A long time ago ... in a land far away :) I did some assembler programming on the Acorn Archimedes (ARM 2/3) and worked out a series of additions and subtractions that would perform very fast multiplication of awkward numbers by known amounts. Is there any point in doing this for C programs, or are modern compilers sophisticated enough to do such things themselves? If anyone is interested *7 is: RSB R1, R0, R0, LSL #3 -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.

11 years

Re: [LAD] Drivers for RME (USB) MADI device (Madiface XT)

by Jonathan Woithe

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:06:24 +0200 Adrian Knoth wrote: > On 08/11/14 05:47, D. Sen wrote: > > I was advised by Paul Davis to inquire on this list whether there has > > been or is likely to be any activity in developing ALSA drivers for the > > RME Madiface XT device. Its a USB device and as such makes it very > > amenable to a portable audio work. > > > > I have used PCIe based Madiface in the past using ALSA. However, I could > > not get the USB based Madiface XT to work. The device was recognized > > correctly (as per the SYSLOG) - however no drivers were loaded. > > > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > > As I said a year ago, it should also be possible to sniff the USB > connection, but this requires a device and a volunteer to do so. You'd > then run Windows in a VM and capture the USB packets with wireshark or > any other USB sniffer. > > Jonathan Woithe may have additional information, since he wrote the > drivers for FF400 and FF800. The FF400 and FF800 are, obviously, both firewire devices. Due to the bus structure and the way it operates there will be nothing in common between this and any of the RME USB or PCIe interfaces. The drivers for the FF400 and FF800 are in FFADO, and while you may get some high level ideas from things like our mixer interface, unfortunately our existing code is unlikely to provide much in the way of direct assistance when looking at devices using other interfaces. Having gone down the protocol analysis route before (albeit not on the RME devices) what Adrian has suggested is entirely feasible for the USB variant. It will be time consuming, but sniffing the USB bus isn't difficult technically speaking and - most importantly - doesn't require special hardware now we have VMs. Obviously the ideal situation is to obtain documentation from the manufacturers, so contacting them as Adrian suggested would be worth a shot. Regards jonathan

11 years, 1 month

Update of zita-at1

by Fons Adriaensen

Zita-at1-0.4.0 is now avaliable at the usual place: <http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html> Bugfixes, MIDI channel selection added. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

11 years, 1 month

Stoat 1.0 Release

by Mark D. McCurry

Hello all, The first release of stoat is available. Stoat is a S.T.atic (LLVM) O.bject file A.nalysis T.ool which is a rewrite of sfpv (Static Function Property Verification) due to the very quick bitrot of the clang API (stoat uses only the llvm optimizer pass API). This tool is designed to evaulate if any realtime function can end up calling a non-realtime function eg a jack process callback being able to call malloc or free. It does this by: 1) Using either inline or external function whitelists and function blacklists to establish which functions are safe and unsafe. 2) Extracting a function callgraph (including virtual function calls) from the LLVM IR representation of code (which is effectively one level above assembly) 3) Perform simple deductions based upon the callgraph This approach is designed to work best for C/C++ projects and for realtime verification, but fairly little stops it from generalizing to other languages (assuming the other languages compile with llvm) and other function properties. Existing annotations from sfpv should still work, though the only project that I've seen using them has been jalv so far. As this might seem quite abstract, here is an example usage with non-timeline: http://log.fundamental-code.com/2014/08/15/stoat-tutorial-example Project Home: https://github.com/fundamental/stoat Report bugs to: https://github.com/fundamental/stoat/issues Mark

11 years, 1 month

revisiting pulse and jackdbus

by Len Ovens

On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Max wrote: >> Pulse on jack. > > Would you suggest that your method is better and should be the > canonical way to do pulse on jack? If so, shall we write up an > alternative WalkThrough on the jackoudio wiki that helps people > setting that up? Something more to add. If you are using a debian based distro (ubuntu for example) the jackd executable needs to be chmod -x or you will find odd things happen if you manage to crash jackdbus. Generally some well meaning program will come along and start jackd making qjackctl of no use and making module-jackdbus-detect unable to set up the pa-jack bridge. The command killall -9 jackd needs to be run. I now concider this has rissen above anoyance to bug. Jackd2 and jackdbus should be packaged separately. If needed the jackdbus version can come with a script that has jack_control's innards, but acts like jackd. (uses jackd's config file and takes jackd's arguments on the CL... may as well give it jackd's name too). For my use, all it would have to do is ignore the arguments and run jack_control start which would restart with the parameters I chose before or do nothing if it is already running. -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net

11 years, 1 month

[ANN] MOD Duo's Kickstarter campaign to be launched in mid September

by Gianfranco Ceccolini

Greetings Linux Audio Users and Developers !!! I'm very happy to inform that we will launch the MOD Duo's Kickstarter campaign in mid September. The MOD Duo is our second model and we've been putting a lot of engineering in it based on the feedback we had from the MOD Quadra experience. We deeply hope it becomes a device that empowers the Linux Audio community, bringing together developers and musicians. A pre-campaign site was created to warm up the communication engines: http://stepontothefuture.com. Hope you all enjoy and spread the word Kind regards Gianfranco Ceccolini The MOD Team

11 years, 1 month

Drivers for RME (USB) MADI device (Madiface XT)

by D. Sen

Hi List-members, I was advised by Paul Davis to inquire on this list whether there has been or is likely to be any activity in developing ALSA drivers for the RME Madiface XT device. Its a USB device and as such makes it very amenable to a portable audio work. I have used PCIe based Madiface in the past using ALSA. However, I could not get the USB based Madiface XT to work. The device was recognized correctly (as per the SYSLOG) - however no drivers were loaded. Any help would be very much appreciated. Best Regards, Deep

11 years, 1 month

Constant-Q library and Vamp plugin

by Chris Cannam

Announcing a new C++ library and Vamp plugin implementing the Constant-Q transform of a time-domain signal. https://code.soundsoftware.ac.uk/projects/constant-q-cpp The Constant-Q transform is a time-to-frequency-domain transform related to the short-time Fourier transform, but with output bins spaced logarithmically in frequency, rather than linearly. The output bins are therefore linearly spaced in terms of musical pitch. The Constant-Q is useful as a preliminary transform in various other methods such as note transcription and key estimation techniques. This library provides: * Forward transform: time-domain to complex Constant-Q bins * Forward spectrogram: time-domain to interpolated Constant-Q magnitude spectrogram * Inverse transform: complex Constant-Q bins to time domain The Vamp plugin provides: * Constant-Q magnitude spectrogram with high and low frequency extents defined in Hz * Constant-Q magnitude spectrogram with high and low frequency extents defined as MIDI pitch values * Pitch chromagram obtained by folding a Constant-Q spectrogram around into a single-octave range The code is provided with full source under a liberal licence, and plugin binaries are provided for Windows, OS/X, and Linux. The method is drawn from Christian Schörkhuber and Anssi Klapuri, "Constant-Q transform toolbox for music processing", SMC 2010. See the file CITATION for details. If you use this code in research work, please cite this paper.

11 years, 1 month

First release of zita-njbridge

by Fons Adriaensen

Zita-njbridge-0.1.0 is now available. Zita-j2n and zita-n2j are command line Jack clients to transmit full quality multichannel audio over a local IP network, with adaptive resampling by the receiver(s). Main features: * One-to-one (UDP) or one-to-many (multicast). * Sender and receiver(s) can each have their own sample rate and period size. No word clock sync is assumed. * Up to 64 channels, 16 or 24 bit or float samples. * Receiver(s) can select any combination of channels. * Low latency, optional additional buffering. * High quality jitter-free resampling. * Graceful handling of xruns, skipped cycles, lost packets and freewheeling. * IP6 fully supported. * Requires zita-resampler, no other non-standard dependencies. Note that zita-njbridge is meant for use on a *local* network providing more or less reliable delivery with low to moderate delay. It may work or not on the wider internet if receiver(s) are configured for additional buffering, and if you are lucky. Performance on wire- less networks is just a matter of chance. You will need a fairly recent Jack version, as the code uses jack_get_cycle_times() and no fallback for that is provided. Download from <http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html> See man zita-njbridge for more info. -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be a It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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Linux-audio-dev August 2014