hello,
i recently purchased a madiface with express card.
trying to compile a debian-source kernel 2.6.26-4, with replaced hdspm.c
and hdspm.h, following instructions on
http://wiki.linuxproaudio.org/index.php/Driver:hdspm
i get following compile error:
ERROR: "__muldf3" [sound/pci/rme9652/snd-hdspm.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "__divdf3" [sound/pci/rme9652/snd-hdspm.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "__fixdfsi" [sound/pci/rme9652/snd-hdspm.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "__adddf3" [sound/pci/rme9652/snd-hdspm.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "__floatsidf" [sound/pci/rme9652/snd-hdspm.ko] undefined!
i tried to get more info on the net about this errors but did not find
usefull hints. any help would be appreciated!
peter
Since returning from holidays (i.e. 10 days) I've been running
patchage as my visual interface to Jack. Never managed to install
it from source (there was always something missing or at least one
compile error), but recently discovered the CCRMA package (thanks
Fernando !).
For the sort of things I'm doing, usually involving a lot of
interconnected Jack clients, it provides a much clearer picture
than qjackctl, and I like that a lot.
Some suggestions / feature requests:
- Include the window scroll offsets in .patchagerc
- Make sure new apps are allways displayed in the
visible part of the window.
- Some way to select and connect groups of adjacent
ports (I'm using 64ch soundcards, and most connections
are multichannel).
- Optionally collapse such sets of ports into a single
visual object.
Long term:
- Multiple tabs, each one controlling a Jackd on a
remote headless machine. This will require splitting
the app into a server and client with a network
connection in between.
Ciao,
--
FA
Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica
Parma, Italia
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
Hey, I thought about extending MP3FS, a user level file system that
shows flac files as mp3s to user-space programs (see mp3fs.sf.net), to
make it work with my 96kHz/24 bit music rips.
MP3FS uses liblame and libflac on the inside, but only converts
standard 44.1kHz/16bit files at the moment. Looking at the
not-to-well-documented lame library I (think) that Lame only support
sample rates up to 48kHz, so I would need to convert the samplerate
and bitrate through the use of an other library. I finally found
libsndfile today, but thought I might hear with the expertice (that's
you), if it should work (if it supports what I want to do),or if I
should use something else.
I would use libsndflac to convert 24 bit/96kHz and 16 bit/44.1kHz flac
files to 16 bit/44.1 kHz uncompressed audio, and then use liblame to
convert this to mp3.
Regarding the downsampling I would like to know if I would get any
funny artifacts when downsampling 96kHz material to 44.1kHz (not even
division). Would I be better of to convert to 48kHz for 96kHz
material?
I do not know much about lame, mp3 encoding, or audio development
apart from the basics, so guide me into safer waters if I have drifted
into unknown waters here ;)
br
Carl-Erik Kopseng
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Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Cory K. schrieb:
>
> > * Shipping the -generic kernel with this 8.10 release of Ubuntu
> > Studio and let people compile their own -rt kernel.
>
> This could be done in any Distro so there would not be a real
> Ubuntustudio anymore.
I don't agree completely since our focus is not *just* audio, though we
know that's our biggest user segment.
> The major strength of UBuntustudio is its
> near-perfect integration of a audiosystem with a friendly desktop-distro.
> I can run VMWare and NVIDIA-Drivers easily with the UBuntu rt kernel
> would be a major p.i.t.a. do make stuff like that run with a self made
> kernel.
These could also be the very things you lose.
> > * Ship a out-of-sync 2.6.26-rt kernel, hoping for a Stable Update
> > Release in Intrepid with .27 later.
>
> This would be perfectly acceptable for me :-)
>
>
> best regs
> HZN
>
> BTW: what is so extremely important in .27? new hardwaresupport not
> achievable with .26?
Much better suspend/resume support along with many bug-fixes and device
support.
-Cory K.
Hello all. This is going out to a couple of lists so I can get as wide
an opinion as I can. I'll correct any inaccuracies as this discussion
progresses.
Quick intro: I'm Cory K. Lean on Ubuntu Studio. Hi :)
So here's the pickle we're in as I understand it.
The way the kernels are now managed in Ubuntu has changed radically in
this release. Thus causing our kernel guy *much* more work that ever
before. We've had to work very hard to get upstream -rt to support the
.26 kernel but, now mainline Ubuntu has moved to 2.6.27. Which upstream
-rt doesn't *look* to support yet.
So because of these, and other issues that don't matter to the question
I have we're looking at these options:
* Shipping the -generic kernel with this 8.10 release of Ubuntu
Studio and let people compile their own -rt kernel. With a latter
PPA release of -rt for testing as upstream support happens.
* Ship a out-of-sync 2.6.26-rt kernel, hoping for a Stable Update
Release in Intrepid with .27 later.
Of some combination of those.
Thoughts on what to do? What do users want? (please be mature)
-Cory K.
Kryz, your mail-severs seems to be down and when I checked out if you
had a running WWW, I got this message:
"Chwilowo nic tu nie ma" [We are not here yet]
So, back to the list ... This time corrected as per second mail:
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:12 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
> Jens M Andreasen wrote:
> > I am doing some preliminary testing of CUDA for audio, Version 2 (final)
> > has been out for a couple of days, and this is also what I am using.
>
> Does it require the proprietary drivers and/or Nvidia kernel module?
>
Yes, and not only that. The proprietary drivers distributed with say
Mandrake, Ubuntu et al won't work either. Uninstall that, change your X
setup to vesa (to stop recursive nvidia installer madness) and then get
your CUDA driver and compiler from:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html
> What kind of things is the gfx card processor potentially capable of
> doing? Anything like multipoint interpolation for audio resampling
> purposes? Multiple delay lines in parallel? Biquads? Multichannel
> recording to VRAM?
Multichannel recording by itself would be a waste of perfectly good
floating point clock-cycles, but anything that you can map to a wide
vector (64 to 196 elements) is up for grabs. A 196 voice multi timbral
synthesizer perhaps or 64 channel-strips with basic filters and
compressor/noise-gate for remix. The five muladds needed for a single
biquad filter times the number of bands you need to equalize on fits the
optimal programming model quite well.
The linear 2D interpolator is also available and even cached. Perhaps
not the worlds most useful toy for audio-resampling, but could find its
way into some variation of wave-table synthesis. It can be set up to
wrap around at the edges, which I find kind of interesting.
Random access to main (device) memory is - generally speaking - a bitch
and a no-go if you cannot wrap your head around ways to load and use
very wide vectors.
There are some 8096 fp registers to load into though, so all is not
lost. Communication, permutation and exchange of data between vector
elements OTOH is then fairly straight forward and cheap by means of a
smallish shared memory on chip.
The more you can make your algorithm(s) look like infinitely brain-dead
parallel iterations of multiply/add, the better they will make use of
the hardware. The way I see it, the overall feel of your strategy should
be something like "The Marching Hammers" animation (from Pink Floyd: The
Wall.)
> Is it possible to confine all the audio stream transfer between gfx
> and audio cards to kernel layer and only implement control in user
> space? (to potentially reduce xruns, won't help for control latency
> but at least it's some improvement)
>
Yuo you mean something like DMA? Yes I would have thought so but this is
apparently not always the case, Especially not on this very card that I
have here. :-/
The CUDA program running on the device will have priority over X though.
So no blinking lights (nor printfs) before your calculation is done. For
real-time work, I reckon this as a GoodFeature (tm)!
Potentially this can also hang the system if you happen to implement the
infinite loop (so don't do that ...)
> Would it be possible to use a high level language like FAUST to
> generate CUDA code? (by adding CUDA-specific backend)
>
The problem would be to give Faust a good understanding of the memory
model and how to keep individual vector elements away from collectively
falling over each other.
But I must admit that I am not too familiar with what Faust is actually
doing? Would it be of any help to you with a library of common higher
level functionality like FFT and BLAS?
---8<---------------------------------------------
- "CUBLAS is an implementation of BLAS (Basic Linear Algebra
Subprograms) on top of the NVIDIA(r) CUDA(tm) (compute unified
device architecture) driver. It allows access to the computational
resources of NVIDIA GPUs. The library is self-contained at the API
level, that is, no direct interaction with the CUDA driver is
necessary."
------8<................................
But observe that:
... - "Currently, only a subset of the CUBLAS core functions is
implemented."
/j
> Krzysztof
>
Hi,
After the latest Intel announcment that they are indeed working
seriously on wireless electricity uses resonance to transmit hte energy
sources I am wondering if anyone has ideas on whether that would affect
audio quality as resonance is an important part of the ambience of live
sound.
Cheers.
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
