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[linux-audio-dev] [Survey] sounds on mobos / notebooks with "headphone" as master

by Takashi Iwai

Hi, i'm gathering the hardware information for workarounds of the "headphone / master swap" problem. on some onboard sound chips and notebooks, the "headphone" volume is used as "master" volume. if you have such a device, please let me know the following: 1. the name of the device (mobo, notebook) 2. whether "master" is connected to any jack? 3. output of "lspci -xv" (of the multimedia entry only) 4. output of "lspci -nv" (of the multimedia entry only) 5. ac97 codec name (found in /proc/asound/card0/ac97#0) thanks in advance, -- Takashi Iwai <tiwai(a)suse.de> SuSE Linux AG - www.suse.de ALSA Developer ALSA Project - www.alsa-project.org

22 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-dev] why is no-one responding are you all just a bunch of &*^%&^%^& wits???

by Allan Klinbail

Hi Guys This is quite a disturbing message.. nearly 2 weeks ago Paul Davis marked one of my messages as something "seriously wrong" going on .. when libraries were compiling as dynamic not static... since then I have responded with full outputs of what is happening. In response I sent full output of what was going on .. tried to sort it out by myself and sent further results.. Okay some of it was too big to get to the list immediately pending "list moderator" acceptance.. and then some of it just purely didn't get responded to. I have done everything I have asked of me from the list, including Paul's responses ..and also taken my own initiatives following lack of response and still have recieved no response. Sure I am not a coder just a potential professional user.. but that really shouldn't be an issue... Okay some individuals responded to some of my initial questions, and thankyou to the two of them.. however noone has responded to further enquiries, after acting on the responses I did get.. Is it because I feigned mild support to Steinberg having (while unreleased) versions of their software for Linux?? Or is it because I'm obviously not a coder?? Is it simply because I used the wrong subject line? This disgusts me as about 2 years ago when I said I was going to give up on Linux to the LAD lists a massive response came about saying I should keep going and my opinions (not even problems relating to software directly) were valued and necessary. Now when I have real problems compiling something, contained with as much information I could forward were included it seems it is irrelevant and no-one seems willing to respond at all (let alone Paul) .. Other compile and/or configure problems have been responded too earlier than mine (at all really as my last few posts have not received any reply) even though I acted upon all requests made of me. I am active in all lists that I am involved in with any replies that I may have a potential answer to and have been promoting this OS and in particular the potential of Ardour to many fellow professionals in the industry. I also have rad and learnt as much as I could to give qualitative feedback to any problems I incur. All I seek is the ability to use open source software in preference to rip-off commercial apps. Yes, I admit there is potential for both to exist on this platform and would use some commerical apps to aide in crossover but that is not the point of this (ardour-dev) list. It would seem only the MusE list responds to anything I send, and only a few particular individuals at that. Aside from being upset, it appears to me that you guys are all a bunch of hypocrites.. Asking for further information, and clarification but never actually responding, while I do everything that I can possibly thing\k of in aiding you answer my questions.. yet continue to be ignored... It does not seem to be a coincidence that all response ended after my response to the string "ahem". So I've wasted 2+ years of my life and countless dollars continuing down this path. Yes this is an emotional response as it seems like my friends advised me I should have just bought a Mac ,, inferior latency aside.. at least the support groups there (even those non-funded as this list) genuinely help. My only problem is , where do I go from here?? This really saddens me as I thought this (Linux) was the future. It seems it is only a future for the GPL elite. extremely pissed off Allan Klinbail

22 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-dev] ZynAddSubFX 1.0.8

by Nasca Paul

I relased today zynaddsubfx 1.0.8 at sourceforge. News: - added mono mode and portamento - added the EQ effect - the output of the system effects can be sent to other system effects - minor bugfixes and improovements Get it from http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

22 years, 11 months

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: why is no-one responding are you all just a bunch of &*^%&^%^& wits???

by Takashi Iwai

At Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:49:08 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > when ardour is in a state where i believe (rightly or wrongly) that a > reasonably typical target user can sit down and just use it without > encountering bugs when recording a typical 12-32 track piece, there > will be binaries. don't forget that the binary distribution may cause different kind of problems, too. the binary might not run on different distributions, or even on a different machine with a same distribution, unless you give all-static-linked binary. (note that even a binary like netscape 4.x cannot run properly now with the new glibc because of java.) and you would likely ignore a bug-report for such, because the only answer is "it works for me" :) Takashi (in a pessmistic atmosphere)

22 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] IEEE 1394

by Paul Davis

>I would like to ask about situation in Linux about one problem. >Does Linux kernel or Alsa drivers supports IEEE 1394 standart? > >If yes, could you recomend me some references and advices to be able to = >use it >and program it to create applications with IEEE 1394? > >If no, could you recomend me some advices or some documentation to be = >able >to create IEEE 1394 driver? for audio+MIDI, there is no fully-defined standard yet. linux already has a compliant 1394 driver, but you normally need extra protocols on top of this for moving specific kinds of data around. IEEE has defined one (IEC61883-6) for audio+MIDI, based on mLAN, and I believe you can get the specs from them or the AES. However, it doesn't support any connection management, so all endpoints have to be explicitly identified by the user, and everything has to be explicitly delivered. Yamaha submitted their scheme for CM to the 1394 trade association as the "AV/C Music Subunit". its been released but not implemented (even by Yamaha) because Yamaha are changing mLAN again. Basically, to quote from someone who really knows this stuff: "So a streaming driver using a format compatible with mLAN devices is not a problem at this stage - it is possible to direct audio/MIDI to mLAN devices and pick up audio and MIDI, but not in a flexible manner. The connection management architecture first needs to settle." --p ps. just a quick note to point out that whether you know it or not, the email program you are using is sending out copies of your mail in both plain text and HTML formats. increasingly on the net, there are filters being put in place that silently dump HTML-formatted email. some mailing lists will not ever accept such posts. as long as you do this, you are (1) wasting network bandwidth by sending messages that are typically more than twice as long as they could be (2) making it harder for people using traditional email readers to read them (3) risking the chance that people will never see your mail because its filtered before reaching their email inbox.

22 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] IEEE 1394

by Steve Harris

On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:34:01 +0200, Pavel wrote: > Hi, > I would like to ask about situation in Linux about one problem. > Does Linux kernel or Alsa drivers supports IEEE 1394 standart? The Linux kernel supports it, and the is even some basic support for 1394 audio (in or out only, I forget which). The audio protocol is called A+M (audio + MIDI), and there is a connection mangement layer over the top, but there are some licencing issues with that. Mark Knecht has been working on somehting along these lines and I have been collecting documentation for a while, and wront some very simple test code, but never tested it. - Steve

22 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-dev] While we're talking about lack of responses :-)

by Ivica Bukvic

I e-mailed the list a couple of days ago asking for some advice regarding my RTMix app ("how to make it more user-friendly"). I am still waiting for some help on this one :-D. Again, any insight is greatly appreciated! Sincerely, P.S. Web server hosting my page is still down, thanks to the "smart" university technicians... If someone desires screenshots I'd be more than willing to send them to you as an attachment (I just don't wanna do that over the mailing list because it would clutter a lot of people's inboxes). Ico

22 years, 11 months

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: why is no-one responding are you all just a bunch of &*^%&^%^& wits???

by ljp

On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 09:49, Paul Davis wrote: > >If you are interested, I am sure people would pay for binaries of > >ardour.I would. I know other musicans that would.I could get more > >musicans to. Personally, I have been waiting for it since I first heard > >about it. Why not release something? > > because i am tired of downloading open source projects that are still > so clearly under development. i am tired of the impression that this > creates. when i get hold of something like freqtweak, which i can > compile or get binaries for, and the thing just works ... that is the > right impression. the wrong impression comes from stupid bugs, > inability to cleanly exit the program (still a core problem with > ardour), and functionality that is obviously necessary and either > missing or incomplete. ahhh, you are a perfectionist! I see your point. Open source software is always under dev, unless it's not maintained. You _could_ release 'alpha' versions clearly stating that it is alpha condition. > > People are waiting! Most open > >source projects release binaries throughout their development phase. > >Instead of adding cool new features for years on end, why not release > >something that musicans can use. > > that's precisely what i am trying to do. however, my definition of > "something that musicians can use" might be different from yours. Well, obviously, ardour isn't at the 'release' stage, but perhaps beta or even alpha. Perhaps someone else with more time, could release a binary version for you. Pick one or two target dists, and release alpha binaries or such. You'd certainly get more bug reports. :) > jazz++ has been around for a long time, and is available as a > binary. why isn't it widely loved and used? because it really isn't > very good. i know that i tried to use it many times, and found it, > well, frankly i found it completely awful. > ardour still has lots of significant bugs and a few design issues that > need addressing before i want the general population judging it. to > release ready-to-run copies now, or even tarballs that would help > people who can't/won't use CVS to try to compile it ... well, all i > think it would do is to increase the number of people who have "been > there, don't want to go back" with respect to the program. Personally, I keep checking back to projects that are in some kind of beta stage, or too buggy to use and look interesting, to see what things have changed. Heck, I'll even use software day to day that crashes constantly, if I think it's useful enough. (mozilla - early stages comes to mind) > when ardour is in a state where i believe (rightly or wrongly) that a > reasonably typical target user can sit down and just use it without > encountering bugs when recording a typical 12-32 track piece, there > will be binaries. People are willing now to support you financially now, Paul.Paypal might be a good idea, if you dont mind begging till ardour is at a point where you can release to the general public. > --p > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: > SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! > http://www.vasoftware.com > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-devel mailing list > Alsa-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel -- My cat's a debugger.... Potter, Lorn, "ljp" core developer / Web Administrator Project OPIE- the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment http://opie.handhelds.org | http://www.opie.info (german) | http://www.opie.us IRC: irc.freenode.net #opie #opie.de llornkcor(a)handhelds.org llornkcor(a)helixcommunity.org

22 years, 11 months

Re: [linux-audio-dev] why is no-one responding are you all just a bunch of &*^%&^%^& wits???]

by Allan Klinbail

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Son of Zev <sonofzev(a)labyrinth.net.au> To: linux-audio-dev(a)music.columbia.edu Cc: Alsa-dev < Thanks Vincent. Your reply is appreciated. However I have been involved in the ardour lists for over 2 years. I have spent much time reading about potential problems and responded to all those that have had the courtesy to respond. I have also learnt and spent much time investigating problems that have nothing to do with the production of music.. simply to try and help developers iron out problems.. Credit goes to some who have especially Takashi Iwai, Robert Jonsson, Tommi Ilmonen and a few others. If you look back into archives a couple of years back alot of development into inclusion of MIDI sync was added to some softwares (especially MusE) to accomodate users like myself who depend on this sync to make software compatible with real studios. BUT. In the last few weeks I have spent much time into trying to configure and compile ardour (the potentially greatest audio recording software available to us) but all my responses after I sent an opinion to the string "ahem" concerning Steinberg having produced (but not released) versions of their commercial softwares under our much loved platform, have been completely ignored.. except this one.. My responses have not been ignorant nor lacking in information. As I mentioned I have spent much time learning about the Linux platform and contributing when I can ... My annoyance is when it was asked of me to provdie more information and I did .. no response came.. then when I tried to resolve it myself and no further response came that's when I could only put 2 & 2 together and see that a response I made to the string "ahem" could have been related cheers Allan On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 00:50, Vincent Touquet wrote: > I'm not a "real coder" either (so one might argue I shouldn't be on > linux-audio-dev, but I'm just interested in the discussions), so I think > I understand the root cause of your grief. > > I think if (if) the Ardour developers are _expecting_ quality feedback > from normal users (not just programmers) at this stage, they should > provide tarballs of the stable CVS snapshots they want to be tested. > > But maybe they want to wait for 1.0 before letting endusers test it? > In that case, maybe you tried to use it too early in its development ? > I think they honestly appreciate your effort to participate, there > should be no doubt about that, but maybe Ardour is still changing too > rapidly for you to be able to track it. > > I think only the developers of Ardour can clear out this question. > > best regards, > Vincent

22 years, 11 months

[linux-audio-dev] fund transfer

by william ume

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