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Re: [linux-audio-dev] more on XAP Virtual Voice ID system

by robbins jacob

>I made a post a while back defining all the XAP terminology to date. Read >it if you haven't - it is useful :) I was hoping something of this sort existed. It would be very helpful if you could put the list of XAP terminology on the webpage. It would help keep everybody on the same page when discussing.;) And it would help people to join the discussion without spending the 10-15 hours it takes to read december's posts. >VVID allocation and voice allocation are still two different issues. VVID >is about allocating *references*, while voice allocation is about actual >voices and/or temporary voice control storage. I agree entirely. If each VVID=a voice then we should just call them Voice ID's, and let the event-sender make decisions about voice reappropriation. ---jacob robbins....................... _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] [ANN] JACK Rack 1.1

by Bob Ham

Hi all, Nice couple of new features with this release, a lot of code cleanups, a bit of UI work, and general betterness all round :) And, if I'm not mistaken, this makes jack rack the only application so far with LRDF support. Nee ner nee ner ;-) * proper ladcca support (pays attention to events) * added saving/loading rack configurations. this is a bit of a hack tho as when you open a file, it only adds the plugins to whatever's in the current rack. in fact, the whole of the file loading/saving is hairy atm. * added lrdf support (this is majorly phat.. categorised plugin menus :) * proper toolbar with stock buttons * control rows now have no central port label * added a menu bar * added a splash screen * added an about box (using gnome 2) * nice new icon and logo images, used for the splash screen, the window icons and also a gnome 2 .desktop * lots of code separation and cleanups and under-the-hood changes http://pkl.net/~node/jack-rack.html Bob

22 years, 5 months

Re: [linux-audio-dev] more on XAP Virtual Voice ID system

by robbins jacob

My understanding of VVID's is that the sequencer puts one complete, continuous note on a particular VVID. The sequencer only reuses a VVID once it has ended any previous notes on that VVID. The sequencer can allocate a large number of VVIDs so that it never has to make a voice stealing decision on its end (and so we don't have to make roundtrips). This large allocation means that the plugin should never try to allocate a significant sized structure for each VVID. Instead, the plugin should match VVIDs to actual voices as incoming voice-on messages are received until all actual voices are used. After all voices are in use, the plugin has to decide whether to steal voices from ongoing notes or deny voice-on events. Voice stealing decisions are properly made by the plugin. This is the case even if the sequencer knows how many actual voices there are because the plugin has much more intimate knowledge of the nature of the voices: their amplitude, timbre etc. My underlying assumptions are: -a single object resides in each channel, be it a piano a gong or whatever, there is one in the channel -HOWEVER, that single object may be polyphonic; the piano may be able to sound multiple notes concurrently, the gong may be able to sound two quick strokes in succession which overlap in their duration. -DEFINITION: We call the facility for making ONE of those sounds a voice. -DEFINITION: the individual voices produce finite periods of sound which we call notes. A note is the sound that a voice makes between a Voice-On event and a Voice-Off event (provided that the voice is not reappropriated in the middle to make a different note) -HOWEVER- there is no rule that a note has any pitch or velocity or any other particular parameter, it is just that the Voice-On tells the voice to start making sound and the Voice-Off tells the voice to stop making sound. -ALSO HOWEVER- the entity which sends voice-on and off messages may not directly refer to the object's voices. Instead, the event sender puts separate notes on separate Virtual Voice IDs to indicate what it desires the voices to do. This differential is in place because sequencers typically send more concurrent notes than the plugin has actual voices for AND the plugin is better suited to decide how to allocate those scarce resources. In other words, it is the role of the plugin to decide whether or not to steal a voice for a new note and which voice to steal. So the sequencer sends out notes in fantasy-land VVID notation where they never ever have to overlap, and the plugin decides how best to play those notes using the limited number of voices it has. As I see it, the procedure for using a voice via a particular VVID is as follows (note that all events mentioned are assumed to have a particular VVID): (1)send voice-on event at timestamp X. This indicates a note is to start. (2)send parameter-set events also at timestamp X, these are guaranteed to follow the voice-on event even though they have the same timestamp because the event ordering specifies it. These parameter-set events are to be considered voice initializers should the plugin support such a concept, otherwise they are the first regular events to effect this note. (3)send parameter-set events at later times to modify the note as it progresses. (4)send voice-off event at later time to end the note and free the voice. When the plugin reads the voice-on event at timestamp X it decides whether to allocate a voice or not. If it has an initialization routine for voice-on events, then the plugin must read through the remaining events with timestamp X to get initialization arguments. The plugin must delay actually initializing the voice until it has read the other events at the same timestamp as the voice-on event. If the plugin doesn't do any special initialization procedures then it doesn't have to worry about this because the events concurrent with the voice-on event can just be applied in the same manner as later param-set events. --jacob robbins:..... soundtank.......... _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

22 years, 5 months

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by rick Burnett

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by Richard Burnett

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22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] New relase of ZynAddSubFX (1.0.4)

by Nasca Paul

ZynAddSubFX is a open-source software synthesizer for Linux. It is available at : http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net or http://sourceforge.net/projects/zynaddsubfx news: 1.0.4 - It is possible to load Scala (.scl and .kbm) files - Added mapping from note number to scale degree is possible to load Scala kbm files - Corrected small bugs related to Microtonal - If you want to use ZynAddSubFX with OSS (or you don't have ALSA) you can modify the Makefile.inc file to compile with OSS only. - It is shown the real detune (in cents) - Made a new widget that replaces the Dial widget - Removed a bug that crashed ZynAddSubFX if you change some effect parameters __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

22 years, 5 months

RE: [linux-audio-dev] MIDI Software Sampler

by STEFFL, ERIK (SBCSI)

> -----Original Message----- > From: Pascal Haakmat [mailto:a.haakmat@chello.nl] > 05/01/03 18:14, CK wrote: > > > if this is OSS forget about it, it will be outdated as soon > an 2.6 kernel > > is out > > Well, ALSA has OSS compatibility, and 4front-tech.com will still be > selling their for-money OSS drivers (for a number of platforms, not > just Linux). > > So saying that OSS will disappear after the release of kernel 2.6 is a > bit premature. Especially since some of the for-money OSS drivers are > still much better than the ALSA drivers (just my experience, YMMV). also, alsa is linux only, isn't it? erik

22 years, 5 months

Re: [linux-audio-dev] more on XAP Virtual Voice ID system

by robbins jacob

On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 12:04:23 -0800, robbins jacob wrote: >>Alternately, we could require that event ordering has 2 criterion: -first- >>order on timestamps -second- put voice-on ahead of all other event types. >This is what I was assuming was meant orignally. >However you dont have to think of them as initiasiation parameters, voices >can have instrument wide defaults (eg. a pitch of 0.0 and and amplitude of >0.0), and the parameter changes that arrive at the same timestamp can be >thought of as immediate parameter changes, which they are. True, my post was based on the assumption that there are some plugins where a certain parameter being initialized at the beginning of the voice would affect the voice over its entire duration. The only concrete example I can give is velocity maps determining use of different samples in a sampler, which doesn't apply here. Maybe a bell model where the voice-on event is considered an impulse describes what I'm talking about; ramping up the velocity after the voice has started has no effect. Irregardless, if a plugin wants to use some parameters in voice initialization, it can do so with the events timestamped at the same point as the voice-on supplying the values for initialization. For the majority of plugins all parameters are equal and some events just happen to coincide with voice-on events, as you say. --jacob robbins ....porjects, soundtank....................... _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] XAP: a polemic

by Tim Goetze

this is not meant to intimidate, rather to be a wake-up call. it seems almost unreal (and certainly unprofessional) to me that an instrument plugin api is being discussed here by a bunch of people who have little to no experience in the field of software sequencers. going into implementation details at the current level of understanding of the problem space is, excuse me, ridiculous. after all, what is going to drive your instrument networks? punched cardboard? certainly not. you'll either use realtime input, or a sequencer, or, most wanted, a combination of both. the closer the integration of the event/plugin system with the sequencer, the more uses the api can be put to, with less pain. stopping short of the mark where the api becomes useful for more applications than basically sample-rate dependent event->audio converters is narrow-minded. viewing the 'host' as a blackbox supposed to 'do the rest' without caring about its internals is blatant ignorance. i do think it's reasonable to ignore my personal input since i don't offer published code to back up my views, and when i do, you'll find it centered around my personal musical needs. however there are, afaik, people from the rosegarden team on this list. it would also be helpful having werner schweer of muse fame participate in some way or other. you might also want to look at other free/open sequencer engines. for one thing, you'll find that most, if not all, are tick-based. vst[i] is a bad candidate i think because few people here will have vst host-side coding experience, and the api itself is bound to be centered around the particular coding needs of a specific company, for a specific application that drags code with it that originated in the eighties and never was subject to public source-level review. in short, the more people with hands-on sequencer experience participating, the better. none are just too few. tim ps: if this post hasn't substantially changed your ways of perceiving this matter, please don't bother answering.

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Cow 0.1.0

by Kay Pruefer

Hi, Cow Outputs Waves is a waveform editor. You draw graphs for amplitude and frequency, cow synthesizes a wavfile. The GUI uses Qt. The package includes also a program to play the cow-sounds and also wavfiles with a midi-keyboard (or any other thing that can output note on/off commands) and several tools. You might be interested in this program if you are using a tracker and need cool sounds or intent to play accords and find it ugly that the wavfiles are getting shorter or longer depending on the tone pitch. Hrm. Maybe youre also interested if you dont use a tracker :) http://kuh.sourceforge.net for pre-compiled binarys for Mandrake, Redhat and SuSE have a look at: http://apps.kde.com/na/2/info/id/1457 HAND, Kay.

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