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Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

by John Lazzaro

> Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> writes: > > OS X is a major challenge to the linux audio religious faithful. It's an opportunity, too, though -- there's a segment of the Mac population that can barely justify the cost premium for Mac hardware, because they use the hardware for recreation or avocation, not as a tool to make more money. If the Linux folks: -- Port the popular apps to OS X, and improve them so that the honest and budget-conscious Mac folks adopt the free Linux apps rather than pirate commercial apps. -- Keep those apps running just as well (or better) under Linux, and evangelize the hardware cost differential. Linux audio could probably carve out the budget-conscious Mac subset over a period of 3-5 years, which (random guess) is 100,000 users or so. That's not my motivation for putting sfront on OS X -- that has more to do with just reaching more users to popularize the underlying standards -- but it might be a motivation for the mainstream Linux GUI audio apps to start a serious OS X porting effort. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lazzaro -- Research Specialist -- CS Division -- EECS -- UC Berkeley lazzaro [at] cs [dot] berkeley [dot] edu www.cs.berkeley.edu/~lazzaro -------------------------------------------------------------------------

22 years, 5 months

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem [was Re: [Alsa-devel] help for a levelmeter]

by CK

Thanks paul, I have this problem once in a while as a die hard opensource fan I didn't go out and buy software for years now and - a point that even in the linux community many people don't seem to understand - not because I'm a cheap- skate or ex-w4r3z kid that doesn't understand how commercial sw production works (no that I would but I guess I get the overall picture) _but_ because also on an application level I want to have access to the sources, to tailor to my needs, to figure out inner workings without bothering tech support, to fix things. I had this discussion with a cycling74 employee recently explaining that I might buy max/msp but _not_ without sources, I'd sign their soul-demanding NDA, pay more - whatever to be able to change #define MAXINLETS 64 in any objects src to what I believe is needed ... I read: [very insightful posting snipped] > improve it. OS X does not let me do this because it isn't as > tinker-friendly as linux. make this a 'thinker-friendly' aswell (SCNR maybe it's because I'm .eu) cheers, x -- chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)

22 years, 5 months

re:[linux-audio-dev] Open Music

by assayag gerard

> From: David Gerard Matthews <dgm4+(a)pitt.edu> > To: linux-audio-dev(a)music.columbia.edu > Subject: [linux-audio-dev] Open Music > Date: 25 Oct 2002 23:39:57 -0400 > > Is anyone working on this: http://www.ircam.fr/equipes/repmus/OpenMusic? > Apparently they GPL'd the sources, and you can download it, but it's > written in Lisp, and MCL PPC Lisp at that. However, as they put it: > > "At the beginning, this will make sense only to people owning the > Digitool compiler. Although we are conscious that this limitation does > not fit clearly into the GPL framework, we think that making the sources > available is an oppurtunity to raise collaborations leading to new > versions of OM that would depend only on open sources compiler, > particularly on linux platforms" > > I did speak with some Ircam people at Darmstadt this past summer, and I > don't think they really have the interest in doing the port themselves. > However, Ircam certainly isn't anti-Linux, so they might be > able/willing to help/be persuaded to work on it. (François, and > Norbert, if you're on this list, feel free to comment.) > > -dgm Until now, we did'nt have the internal resources to develop a full linux version of OpenMusic. However a fragmental prototype of OM/Linux based on cmucl had been developed by Camilo Rueda and his team at Cali Univsersity in Colombia. See http://escher.puj.edu.co/openmusic/ Things are changing now, thanks to the Agnula (A GNU Linux Audio Distribution) project. This project is funded by the European Commission, coordinated by Tempo Reale in Florence, and involves Ircam (coordinator : Francois Dechelle) as a partner. See http://www.agnula.org/ Thanks to Francois Dechelle's support, we may now envision the integration of OmLinux in the following monthes, as well as the definition of a coherent development strategy between OMLinux and OM/OsX. More info to come soon... Gérard Assayag Music Representation Team IRCAM

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] work is what happens while we're debating GUIs

by Paul Davis

this is a VSTi: http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2002/Oddity-large.jpg slurp ;)

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22 years, 5 months

Re: [linux-audio-dev] 3MU as LADSPA plugin?

by Mario Lang

"Richard Furse" <rf015d9821(a)blueyonder.co.uk> writes: > Sounds like an excellent idea... Only problem is that 3MU has a sequence setting in his config file too, which makes porting to LADSPA a bit strange. LADSPA doesn't have any string-value fascilities, or anything else for sequencer data, right? > Looked for this tk3MU thing and found TromVSpace, now obsolete. You can find tk3MU on the linux-sound page, right next to 3MU. And for those curious how such a .3MU file should actually look like, I managed to work one out, from reading the tk3MU sources: ---------------------------------------<>------------------------------------- #!3MU portamento-time = 50 attack = 2.1 release = 6.9 repetitions = 16 cutoff = 100 decay = 65 filter-amount = 190 filter-poles = 10 resonance = 39 tempo = 40 waveform = "square" cutoff = 13 Note = { c0 c1 d1 c0 c1 d1 e0 d#1 } note-mode = { normal normal normal normal normal normal normal normal } note-length = { legato normal legato legato legato normal legato normal } note-portamento = { 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 } ---------------------------------------<>------------------------------------- -- CYa, Mario

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] Fwd: RE: [music-dsp] Transformer emulation revisited

by Steve Harris

This is from the music-dsp list, it seems relevant to what people were discussing with SPICE emualtion of tube circuits. - Steve ----- Forwarded message from "Sergio R. Caprile" <yogurthu(a)arnet.com.ar> ----- > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:05:32 -0300 (ART) > From: "Sergio R. Caprile" <yogurthu(a)arnet.com.ar> > Subject: RE: [music-dsp] Transformer emulation revisited > To: music-dsp(a)shoko.calarts.edu > X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on Linux > > > On 06-Nov-2002 music-dsp-digest wrote: > > > I've been too lazy to sit down and calculate the typical Preamp hi-freq > > boosting from schematic component values, need to do that sometime. > > I did some Spice simulations some time ago, as far as I remember it was more a > sort of low-freq roll-off: single pole hi-pass between stages and poor resistor > decoupling. > > > Even if the preamp has hi-freq boost that emphasizes higher-frequency > > distortion, a downstream saturating transformer might "sound good" by > > selectively adding extra harmonics to the low notes? From one view, the > > transformer might be "undoing" the preamp's hi-freq emphasized distortion. > > But the two might work synergystically to make a more complex sound than a > > simple broadband fuzz? > > > > Since there is non-linear processing involved, the transformer is unable to > undo the preamp hi-freq distortion, but it adds a different color. The main > reason to hi-pass before distorting stages was to avoid that cutting rumbling > sound or excessive bass, well, that was before grunge and Metallica and... > > > There was no tone control setting that would completely straighten out the > > lines in the tri wave, even with the amp running clean. There were > > frequency-dependent effects in distorted tones which made the waves even > > more difficult to interpret. > > The Fender tone network (later adopted and modified by Marshall and almost > everyone, including Roland) is designed to color the signal, there is no "clean" > position as in a regular Baxandall network. There is an intentional notch at > 250/500 Hz that can be softened by the mid control and two bumps at 100Hz and > 5KHz. > I am not much into tubes, but most of the preamp stages where intentionally > biased so the tubes could easily be overdriven. Some Marshall have "feature" > capacitors running across different stages, I mean, the schems say: for model A > this capacitor, model B no capacitor, model C, change to this value. Pretty much > of the sound seems to have come out of sorcery ;^), or trial and error btw. > > James: > You said you simulated a simplified tone control > Did you simulate the Fender/Marshall network ? I tried to get the transfer > function but it gets a bit complicated and I always give up before bilinear > transform, and don't want to split the circuit as that might remove all the > interactions along the controls. > > Regards > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Sergio R. Caprile, Electronics Engineer, Bs.As., Argentina > http://www.geocities.com/scaprile > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, > FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links > http://shoko.calarts.edu/musicdsp/ ----- End forwarded message -----

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] 3MU as LADSPA plugin?

by Mario Lang

Hello.. I just decided to try out 3MU. Well, I'm at a loss there, the 3MU distribution doesnt seem to include a single example, and tk3MU is a gui again. But while looking at all this (and still not able to generate a single sound :-) ) I was wondering if anyone ever thought about turning 3MU into a ladspa plugin? It appears to have many parameters, and AFAIK, they can only be set at startup right now... Exposing that through ladspa controllers would be cute. -- CYa, Mario

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Cheby amp code

by Steve Harris

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 08:12:10 +0100, Tim Goetze wrote: > >In the instantaite block fixes it up more-or-less. Maybe even adds a bit > >of compression (it boosts the gain to make it roughly 1:1 too). > > have you modified the lut in the meantime? i don't seem to be getting > the right results with the log scaling you use. Did you try adding the 0th harmionic to the front of the table, and dropping the last harmonic? That made it sound pretty good for low notes. > ah, i'm afraid that's only half the truth. try the link i posted > to the list; somebody has been doing this before us and published. > i still haven't checked for frequency dependency of valve distortion, > but it seems they have, and found it to exist. Figures, on both counts. > additionally, it seems that to tackle intermodulation distortion it > is best to split the incoming signal to multiple bands (those great > theoreticians have been using FIRs in matlab) and shape each band > separately. they do in fact use two blended shapers per band. OK, why do they use two shapers? Or is it one cheby and one non polynomial? > btw, the 'lower frequency' phenomenon occurs with the real amp, too, > only it's not as pronounced. OK, I didn't know that. > drat. i fear that we'll need to cool this box into superconductance > to get the effect done *really* right. Yeah, I'm thinking we're not tackling it right, if behringer can knock out a virtual amp harware box for E150 it can't the that cycle hungry. - Steve

22 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

by Mario Lang

Hello. I'm a blind Linux user since 1997, and I'm also interested in doing music on Linux. Since I'm the synth-type-of-guy, I'd really love to be able to play with software based synths, a little bit of step seuqencing, and some sample based stuff. Controlling my SuperNova DrumMachine via MIDI (and being able to sequence it) would also be nice. Well, since blind people are still very GUIdisabled in Linux, the only things I can use are those which are either CLI or curses based, or expose their functionality through a easily programmable API. If only choice number two is available, that isn't that nice, because I'd like to be productive sometimes, and if you have to write yourself every little bit of convenience thing, you are not really making music, you're programming :). THe biggest problem there is that you actually dont do much realtime modifications. And realtime changes to sequences or parameters of things are very important for experimental type of electronic music. SO I've looked around, and found some stuff, but still have nothing really useful. Here is the list of software which is nicely done, and GUIless friendly: Ecasound!!! Kai, cool done! But its not the thing I need unfortunately. GDAM. Looks promosing because the workhorse code is nicely separatedd from the GUI, and I already managed to program gdam123 a bit to allow rate control, but again, its not really what I'm looking for although it seems nice. Ardour is also somewhat accessible from what I hear, but again, its a multitrack recorder, not what I need. SSM: I looked at the code, and it seemed quite horrible to me. GUI and workhorse code are tightly coupled, I see no way for me to get to the underlying functionality. What I'm really missing is: Some Sequencer which is capable of MIDI out and in Some Synth software which is controllable through that sequencer. SSM seems nice, but its a GUI-only thing, PD is even more GUI... Some LADSPA plugins seem promising, but again its too much putting-things-together work. Can anyone add anything to that list? Can anyone help with the listed problems? Is some software author (i.e., the SSM author) interested to work with me on getting GUIless controllability? I'm not a good C programmer, but I'm at least familiar with what we'd need to work efficiently... Or am I missing anything completely? Some trick to circumvent the need for some GUIs? Can anyone give an example on how to create a short trtack with some samples and a synth line without X? -- CYa, Mario | Debian Developer <URL:http://debian.org/> | Get my public key via finger mlang(a)db.debian.org | 1024D/7FC1A0854909BCCDBE6C102DDFFC022A6B113E44

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