10 Jun
2004
10 Jun
'04
1:03 p.m.
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 06:39, Dave Robillard wrote:
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 00:10, Michael Ost wrote:
I guess this counts as a flame...? Wow. What vitriol. Tone it down if
you want a discussion.
- mo
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 15:56, Dave Robillard
wrote:
Hence why I specifically said we can take positive things from the
proprietary software world too. You really just want to precisely
duplicate all popular proprietary software, just because? I guess we
aren't the same "we".
I don't think I could possibly care less who
uses 'linux audio'. I
don't really think anyone else here should either - we should be aiming
to build the best system possible, period. Not saying "look! popular
software the people pay money for does this; therefore we must too!"
I'm with a company trying to make money off of linux audio. While I
enjoy the technical/academic discursion (though lots get the
subject-line only review! %), I'd like to think this list could support
those who mix the market with idealism.... like, well, me.
If anything, we should be looking at the
proprietary music software
world to make sure we avoid repeating their mistakes (ridiculous
duplication of effort, lock-in, and horrid UIs for example), not
duplicating them just because. (Not to say we can't take positive
things from that world too though)
Should I drop off the list? I ain't the same 'we' you are, I guess.
While it's true that the proprietary world has made lots of bad s/w, we
in the biz have also made lots of great stuff. If y'all care (and I think you should) the
best way to encourage the
proprietary folks to adopt and put energy into open source efforts is to
focus on libraries and not apps.
I have to ask: if you want to develop everything exactly like the
popular proprietary Windows/MacOS software, and want to facilitate
proprietary audio software under linux... why the linux in the first
place? Obviously you don't care about 'software freedom' all that much,
so what's the point?
If you want a system with a bunch of proprietary audio software, why the
*#$#@ would you be running linux??
That nice you think I should want proprietary software to get developed
for linux. Well, I don't. IMHO that amounts to throwing away the
single advantage "we" have, which sounds pretty stupid to me.
Go develop proprietary software on OSX or something.