Jens M Andreasen wrote:
Uhmm ...
You say that one should antiphase the signal from the speakers in the
opposite direction?
no. i said that "classic" ambisonics decoders do it, and it leads to
problems in large auditoriums with listeners outside the sweet spot.
take a stereo rig: you can put a source "outside" the speakers by adding
antiphase sound to the opposite one. impressive, but works only if
you're in the middle. close to the antiphase speaker, the image
collapses into that speaker.
Since this is a signal supposed to emerge from the
center and the speakers are arranged in a circle, then either there are
no speakers in the opposite direction or all speakers can be considered
to be opposite.
imagine you are standing off-center. all speakers start playing. two
problems: one, if the auditorium is large, the speakers close to you
might hit a lot earlier than those on the opposite side. if they are
more than about 30ms apart, the haas effect kicks in and you will
localize the sound as coming from the closer speakers.
two, if the levels of the far and close speakers differ by more than 6-8
db, you will localize the sound at the louder source even without the
haas effect. not so much an issue, because such arrays carry a long way
and the level does not drop much.
Is origo a special case that doesn't work?
origo?
I would have thought it to be
the simple base-case, even simpler than the "dropping the soap in a
bathtub, but reversed" wawe propagation I suggested earlier.
yes. reversed. i'm not an expert on this, but my guess is that when you
try such things, you have to take into account that it is *not* a
standing wave field. it travels, but in the wrong direction. that means
your ITD cues (interaural timing difference) will be wrong.
i guess projecting virtual sound sources inside an auditorium is akin to
making things invisible according to douglas adams: in almost all cases,
it's more convenient to actually put a real sound source there :)
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