Re: [LAD] linux audio standards base?

On 08/11/2009 08:59 AM, Nick Copeland wrote: Ok, so from what you are saying there is nothing particularly wrong that the recommendations below would solve for a large enough number of people as to make it worth suggesting any of them at all? I don't think that I need to justify why the recommendations are offered but if they are really not to be considered necessary then that is a different story. The list below is simply attempting to solve as elegantly as possible the real usability issues that currently crop up for a "normal" user experience on 64 bit with the additional suggestion for the kernel config as people were wondering how to get extended memory on a 32 bit platform. I'm not sure if that last one is relevant myself but it was suggested so it's on the list of suggestions to be considered. Here's an additional possible recommendation that occurred to me last night. - If using skype consider purchasing a usb phone and using that as the audio interface instead of relying on the onboard sound device as it will probably make your life easier. Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd > > - A distribution should attempt to run jack as the default audio > server and should attempt to make the process pf starting jack easy > for a non technical user. > > Why should a distribution do this? There are lots of reasons why they > shouldn't. > > - Pulseaudio should attempt to connect to jack by default and fall > back to the alsa layer if jack is not running. > > Why should pulse audio do this? There are lots of reasons why it > shouldn't. > > - Closed source binaries such as those provided by companies like > Adobe, Skype and Real Networks should provide flexibility for > changing the audio library path and not be hardcoded to /usr/lib/ > > Why should they do this? Skype has 400M users, Adobe at least double > that. Why should they make consideration for perhaps a small number > of hundreds of users: those that want Linux, and Audio, and 64bit? > You are welcome to change the figure of 'hundreds' into 'thousands' > but nowhere on earth does it reach anything like the number of Skype > users on 'another' platform. What are we offering Skype by way of a > carrot to make them even consider this? You have to put the request > into the perspective of it just being yet another request made of > them and all of the other requests leading to potential financial > benefits to their organisation. All Linux can offer Skype is a number > of paying subscribers, and those that fit this specific demand are > very small. > > - For 32 Bit systems with memory of more than 8GB we recommend > enabling CONFIG_X86_PAE in the kerneld > > The limit is theoretically 4G. Its a lot lower on pretty much all > motherboards. If we put in any demands like this one it will sound > like we have no idea about what we are talking about. > > - For a 64 bit desktop system please ensure the 32 bit libraries for > alsa, jack and pulseaudio are installed by default. > > Is this relevant? Are you asking for just the 32 bit libraries? Both > of them? > > > If somebody put this proposal in front of me, personally, I would not > give it the time of day. There is no justification, no benefit being > offered, and no real necessity to do it. There is nothing compelling. > > Nick. > Again, this was all opinion. The goal is a good one, the means don't > quite seem to rise up to it. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want. > <http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1>