Re: [linux-audio-dev] Request/Offer: Debian package for Scala

On Sunday 19 December 2004 11:00 am, Dave Robillard wrote: Selfish Selfish. Mind you, I'm selfish too, as are we all, so you don't care, I don't care. Sweet! Let's all have a cup of STFU over it then. That didn't work the first time. I'm not telling you guys what you think. I'm telling you what I think. When I bring up copyright, it's not even what I think, it's the law of the land. Not my law although I abide by it. The people with the army, their law. Well if that's what you think it's about, why did you use caps when addressing me? In the future I would appreciate a style of emphasis not indicative of shouting please, or at least make it funny. I almost got nasty about that when I was replying yesterday and used considerable restraint to remain civil. You and I have had off list discussions that were 80% misinterpretation driven so I cut you some slack. So, what are you calling your reimplementation of Scala then? It doesn't matter to anybody but you (editorial sense) what your cause is. I'm not judging anybody, I acknowledge it takes all kinds. I'll try not to sound too patronizing and I hate to do this on list but, my recollection is you're a 20 something musician/grad student who's plans are X,Y and Z. I don't question your commitment at this point in time, but y'know, look at human history. Do you expect to be where you are now in 10 years? How do you propose to parlay your free software contributions into a living? It's a dilemma you'll need to deal with if that's the plan. If yer counting on hacking in your spare time... talk to the people who would be your peers. I'm a 44 year old musician/former audio engineer/computer bottom feeder with no day job and no formal education who's likely had more ups and downs than you've had hot meals and sees a great opportunity for someone with my particular skill set, thanks to the hard work of a lot of talented people. As far as platform gnosticism goes, I have no reason not to use linux. I know it well and it does what I want at a reasonable cost without pissing me off too much. Here, I'm selfish. What somebody else uses is of no concern to me unless I'm getting paid to support it. I think your apparent lack of concern for what kernel the apps run on combined with the insistence on telling me what's best for "my cause" is cute, like when a puppy runs headlong into a sliding door, so knock it off. Search the list archive for my position paper. Read it. Notice that it acknowledges everybody has their own areas of expertise and that I state in clear english, a strategy to generate a pool of development money that doesn't require any effort from the community. I also state that I do not code and intended to act as a filter between users and developers. Logic will tell you that is a good state of affairs for people who do code. I watched the thread regarding prototyping a PCI card with some interest as well. It's an ambitious goal and I'd rather work on bootstrapping that than cock around playing holier-than-thou on a list. We all make our contributions, whatever they may be. One has to be a pragmatist in life though. I'd rather see a task being done on Linux generating some mind share to feed the machine than tell a client "Linux can't do it because author A wrote his own license".