21 Jan
2004
21 Jan
'04
12:32 p.m.
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 11:10, Daniel James wrote:
No - a consortium can only represent its members.
"Linux audio community gets representation..."
Then let's focus on software and its developers.
If you read up on the event you'll see it is specifically about audio
and music technology, which LinuxTag is not. Running this kind of
stand at a Linux event would be 'preaching to the converted'. As for
ZKM, that is a developer event, not really an event for users who
don't even know what Linux is yet.
http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/
http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/
Could you explain?
Already done witholding?
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/consortium-p
Marek
It's true that I did initiate the arrangement
whereby the Linux
audio community gets representation at a major UK audio industry
trade show,
Suddenly you're now speaking as the representative of the whole
Linux audio community. The only true
representatives of the Linux Audio community are the Linux Audio
Developers.
By which you mean members of a mailing list, or the actual developers
doing the work? This may come as a surprise to you, but many libre
software developers admit that they need help to promote their
software - either because they don't have the time, experience of
working with the media or public speaking skills. The
organisers have agreed
to give us the stand at cost, which they didn't have to do.
So how is that different from LinuxTag or ZKM? The only thing we should promote right now are
the Linux Audio applications.
er... that's what we are doing.
Companies have resources to promote
themselves.
I don't think you appreciate the situation with regard to the small
companies that are funding free software development, while trying to
make a living for developers at the same time. They are not rich.
Even combined, their resources are tiny compared to the proprietary
software companies.
And it makes no sense to promote Linux Audio
Users at
such event.
What have you got against users? Is it because I'm a user rather than
a developer?
The problem is - Frank, Joern, Matthias were
doing a great job
organising events and helping the Linux Audio Developers to promote
their open source Linux Audio applications.
Agreed - but only events in Germany as far as I know. There are other
countries too. They never called
themselves the directors of LAD.
Perhaps that's because a mailing list is not an organisation. If they
had set up an organisation and called themselves directors of it, I
don't think anyone would have complained.
I see ZKM as a very important event simply
because it's growing
into a larger conference, an event solely aimed at Linux Audio, an
event that will be aimed at both Linux Audio Developers and Linux
Audio Users this year. A place where the developers, journalists
and music industry can meet each other.
As long as they a) know the event exists and b) are sufficiently
interested to travel to Germany for it. I think such an event is much more important than
any stand.
Yes - but we're aiming our effort at a very different audience. I urge you
again to withhold the establishing of any consortium
Already done. Regarding the consortium list.
The old thread is gone. Was there anything you should hide?
No. It was only a temporary list.
I
believe that another private mailing list with the old thread still
exists.
You sound paranoid.