On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:37:23PM +0100, Folderol wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:24:24 +0200
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
We all agree on what 'red' means. Because
we have learned
the meaning of that word by association. But do we 'see'
the same thing ? AFAIK, that is impossible to verify.
This brings back memories of long arguments amongst my friends (when
we were all young and spotty).
We thought we'd pinned it down when someone suggested that the only way
to be sure, would be if humans developed telepathy - a whole 'nother
arguing point :)
That got shot down when someone suggested that the brain would have to
do some form of translation to telepathic 'waves' and how could we be
sure that everyone would translate the same way :)
Yes. This was pointed out by Wittgenstein some 0.75 centuries
ago - you can't prove consciousness.
Even if you torture someone and he's screaming like hell, you
can always say "it's a robot progranmed to act like this when
given the stimuli we are giving it", and there's no way to
disprove that.
Ciao,
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FA
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