[linux-audio-dev] Re: XAP: a polemic

I just had to come out of lurk mode for this: tim wrote: Nancarow, Ives, Stockhausen, Xenakis, Boulez, Schaeffer, Henry etc. etc in the classical field Taylor, Sun Ra, Ornette Coleman, Coltrane, Mengelberg, Broetzman, Zorn, Ayler etc etc in jazz/impro lots of ambient stuff that I don't know the names of. lots of acapella vocal music from various cultures. There can be easily multiple time-frames going happening in a single piece of music that have non-lineair relationships. A computer can also be used to make sounds that a player cannot make. A sequencer/daw will also be used for non-musical ordering of sounds in time. It might be handy to use an extended beat/measure structure for setting event frames for dialog editing for a radio play. BTW measure are much more complicated than just A/B. Even a 6/8 is really 2/ 2.6666666.... in a way. Unless it is divided differently. See Brahms for nice examples of playing with the groupings of eight notes in 4/4. The notation x/y is just a shorthand in classical music _notation_, that only becomes meaningfull in the context of other notation parameters, such a note-beam groupings etc. So notating 17/16 instead of 4.25/4 is fine, because the score gives the grouping information. (to the player and conductor) Although I have written (4+1/2) / 4 because I wanted to mae sure that the piece s counted that way and not in 9/8 (=3+3+3). Anyway my point is that the A/B concept of measure if only really relevant if your dealing with western _notation_, and then together with the entire score. going back to lurk mode now Gerard